A Generation of Wimps? - page 5

Is is just me, or is anyone else seeing more and more patients in their late teens to early 30's that are a bunch of wusses? I mean relatively minor ailments (nausea/vomiting for 1 day, headache,... Read More

  1. by   mdoze911nurse
    We have the same problem in our ER and it is the topic of many department manager and ER nurse meetings. Some of the providers were scared into treating not so convincing "10/10" pain when EMTALA was the big news and are afraid of being 'turned in'. As the DM, I am trying to re-educate these folks into realizing that we DO NOT have to give Demerol, Dilauded, Stadol etc in order to be giving good patient care. We have recently began RN Medical Screening forms on patients with recurring symptoms. It is amazing how quickly the 'word' is out that this screening does not get you the drugs you are seeking. Of course this is time comsuming but has REALLY cut down on this type of traffic. We'll see what the long term affect is.........
  2. by   teeituptom
    I only go to ER for little problems, Appendicitis, Cholecystitis, Acute MI, # er visits, 2 trips to OR and 1 trip to the cath lab.

    Yes the younger generation is raised to be very wimpy. Thats ok call it Job security. Really think about it. If it werent for wimps and druggies going to the ER, We wouldnt be able to keep ER doors open. For those that truly need ER.


    Wimps equal job security, love it or leave it.
  3. by   SDS_RN
    I agree that we are setting up a genereation of legal drug users. Our facility sends out these lovely surveys to our drug seekers and if they do not get what they came for then our survey is in the toilet. Of course management believes these people filling out the surveys and then we get reemed for not providing "quality service". Some of our docs will not give into these people but others want a good survey so they give them what they want. It's too bad that we have to let the general public influence how we do our jobs when it's not in their best interest as a patient. I don't believe that the surveys are all bad but it's too bad they can't take into consideration who is filling out the surveys.
  4. by   pickledpepperRN
    When working in the ER you only see those who go to the ER.
    Tens of thousands of people of every generation are in pain and/or vomiting at home right now.
    We will not see them in the ER.

    It is good to be able to vent and complain here on ALLNURSES.COM

    My hospital has an urgent care clinic across from the ED. It is staffed with one MD, NPs, PAs, and LVNs. When the triage RN assesses that the patient does not need to be assigned to a registered nurse the patient is accompanied to the clinic.
    It is not a perfect situation and a few need to come back to the ER but decreases the waiting and allows the staff to be prepared for a true emergency.
  5. by   PMHNP10
    Quote from olddog1
    Does anyone else have a problem with all our focus on pain? I agree that we should make people as comfortable as we can and think anyone in a terminal state should have access to any and all meds available to them, but we've gone a little overboard. The ED where I work doles out dilaudid like it's skittles so that now folks come in b/c they stub their toe and expect a dose of dilaudid!!! and the scary part is that they get it b/c no one wants them to leave unhappy. Of course no one cares that we are creating a whole generation of legal drug addicts. When were we guaranteed a completely pain free life?
    I don't have a problem with "all the focus on pain" but rather where the focus is going. IMHO the focus isn't in the right place. Given that 95% of the world's populaton uses 20% of all opiates, how are the people managing pain. I understand many possibly tolerate pain due to the state of health care in their country (e.g., impoverished, 3rd world countries), but that's certainly not the case in many parts of Europe, Canada, etc. So how does pain management happen?
  6. by   sjt9721
    Quote from teeituptom
    I only go to ER for little problems, Appendicitis, Cholecystitis, Acute MI, # er visits, 2 trips to OR and 1 trip to the cath lab.

    Yes the younger generation is raised to be very wimpy. Thats ok call it Job security. Really think about it. If it werent for wimps and druggies going to the ER, We wouldnt be able to keep ER doors open. For those that truly need ER.


    Wimps equal job security, love it or leave it.
    Don't forget about the part that "stupidity" plays in your job security...that in itself has kept food on the table for me & flight-nurse husband!
  7. by   teeituptom
    Quote from sjt9721
    Don't forget about the part that "stupidity" plays in your job security...that in itself has kept food on the table for me & flight-nurse husband!
    Stupidity with a wimp chaser, now thats a combo that is increaseingly more common
  8. by   MAISY, RN-ER
    Other than making money, my last visit as a patient was 17 years ago for 70+ sutures in my hand...if I could have steri stripped...I would have!

    My kids and husband are the same way...husband has two bum knees...referees bball with them...eventually will be replaced. My daughter walked around with a fractured wrist for 2 days before treated as such...stubborn like mom. My son's the same way. My mom calls us Christian Scientists...I just say suck it up.

    Can't stand grown men who cry with needles and iv insertions with their young children looking on. Can't stand parents and patients who don't treat their fevers or cold symptoms. Can't stand people who have gi problems, are off work so come to ER....turning out to be constipated. (happy to give that golytely) Lately, just can't stand people! This holiday season has been ridiculous. Let the sick people come to the ER....all others keep your 24 hour bug, or chronic bs problem at home!

    Maisy
  9. by   SusanKathleen, RN
    I think it's a generational or cohort thing. The superintendent of our schools told us about a recent Harris poll,asking companies, big and small, WHO they are hiring, not hiring, and why. The results: NOT wanting to hire those in their 20's and early 30's, mostly male - because they have no manners, no common courtesy, are rude to customers, do not get along with colleagues, show up late, don't show up, complain A LOT, expect A LOT, don't feel they must follow company rules.

    WANTING to hire------give up? Asian heritage, Indian heritage, and ---older folks doing second careers. Why? Polite, show up on time, don't call in sick, get along well with colleagues, have a work ethic, etc.
  10. by   teeituptom
    In other words dont hire wimps, right
  11. by   rph3664
    Quote from SusanKathleen
    I think it's a generational or cohort thing. The superintendent of our schools told us about a recent Harris poll,asking companies, big and small, WHO they are hiring, not hiring, and why. The results: NOT wanting to hire those in their 20's and early 30's, mostly male - because they have no manners, no common courtesy, are rude to customers, do not get along with colleagues, show up late, don't show up, complain A LOT, expect A LOT, don't feel they must follow company rules.

    WANTING to hire------give up? Asian heritage, Indian heritage, and ---older folks doing second careers. Why? Polite, show up on time, don't call in sick, get along well with colleagues, have a work ethic, etc.
    Have you seen "The 40-Year-Old Virgin"? A lot of kids see things like that, or people on TV, and think people really act that way at work. My neighbor is a manager at Best Buy, and I keep meaning to ask him if he's seen that movie.

    If you haven't seen it, Mr. Virgin works at a store that's a very thinly disguised Best Buy, and......no, people who act like that at work don't last very long, but the movie WAS funny, as were some of the things those guys did on the job.

    My department has, in recent years, hired several women who were near retirement age and they have caused WAY more problems than the recent HS graduates who work for us! The younger people are relatively easy to guide regarding proper workplace behavior. The older women - no, they don't mouth off but their attitude has been, "Who cares? I'll be retiring soon anyway" and there isn't much that can be done about it.

  12. by   runawaytrain
    Now, now! Speaking as a person in her early 20's and not as a nurse, I will say that I am not a weinie. I was brought up with the notion (as long as I wasn't contagious) that "you can be sick at home, or you can be sick at school/work/etc..." Granted, many were not raised like that, but having said that...
    Now speaking as a nurse, there are a lot of wussies that I see in the ED. Most of them male and many of them in their 20's. But I will have to say that some of the most ridiculous patients I have had were over the age of 30. They are the patients I hear howling down the hallway with a toothache or bellyache.
    It's not just my generation that's getting wussified; it's society as a whole. Older people and young people alike will get on the internet and read magazines and watch the news and self-diagnose before even coming in, convinced that they are dying and they want 5-star treatment before they pass on.
    Yeah, it can get annoying, but it's job security...
  13. by   mmutk
    My favorite is when they never even try Tylenol prior to going to an ER. They just show up with a .... I got a headache, fever, ect. 4 hours ago and I haven't taken anything. I need a ... ct scan, flu test... blah blah blah take some damn meds and go to the WR.

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