A Generation of Wimps? - page 2

Is is just me, or is anyone else seeing more and more patients in their late teens to early 30's that are a bunch of wusses? I mean relatively minor ailments (nausea/vomiting for 1 day, headache,... Read More

  1. by   jnette
    Quote from loricatus
    I wonder if this trend has something to do with instant gratification? Society, in general, is becoming more accustomed to obtaining instant gratification and it seems as if it has spilled out into the world of healthcare.
    I do believe you've hit the nail on the head right there. Sad, but true.

    Quote from grapejuice01
    The sad fact is that we, as a society, are raising new generations of ER abusers every day because children who are treated for routine ailments in the ED will see this as the norm and do the same with their children and continue the cycle. A lot of it is the fact that many eople dont have insurance and therefore cant afford to see a PCP but thats not to say that the insured dont abuse the system as well.
    Agree as well with the above.

    Instant relief, instant gratification, regardless of when or where, regardless of whom one might be inconveniencing.

    After all.. it's "all about ME" these days, isn't it? And
    I want it NOW." :stone
  2. by   scattycarrot
    Yep, total wimps. I go along with everyone else here! I think socities expectations have changed and its almost like no-one is allowed to be ill or have pain anymore. Its as if the public expect a healthcare profesional to wave a magic wand and the problem will go away. People don't realise that illness, pains and ailments are a natural part of life and they pop pills at the first sign of a cold or headache. They think surgery is a simple, easy procedure that won't cause any problems (anyone heard of that little thing called death?) or discomfort and are surprised when it does. Look at the increase in elective c-sections. Woman assume that is a risk-free and painless procedure when in actual fact it is neither and more dangerous for the mom and baby than a NSVD. And, just look at how many people undertake plastic surgery as if it was nothing and at crappy medical centers...or in Mexico!
    As for the comments by grapejuice1, in the UK we have a sytem called See and Treat, which is basically triage manned by NP's and/or doctors, who assess the patient on arrival and 'treat' them immeditely. So, a uncopmlicated flu will get a wrist slap and told to go home, a minor ailment will get meds and sent home, a minor injury... say an inversion injury will get the xray and treated without even entering the ER, A childs lac...cleaned, closed, advice as appropriate and discharged from Triage. We would basically filter the patients coming in so only those who needed 'ER' treatment would get it. Great way of filtering out the ER abusers, who think a 3 week old injury is an an emergency!
  3. by   santhony44
    Quote from scattycarrot
    Yep, total wimps. I go along with everyone else here! I think socities expectations have changed and its almost like no-one is allowed to be ill or have pain anymore. Its as if the public expect a healthcare profesional to wave a magic wand and the problem will go away. People don't realise that illness, pains and ailments are a natural part of life and they pop pills at the first sign of a cold or headache. They think surgery is a simple, easy procedure that won't cause any problems (anyone heard of that little thing called death?) or discomfort and are surprised when it does. Look at the increase in elective c-sections. Woman assume that is a risk-free and painless procedure when in actual fact it is neither and more dangerous for the mom and baby than a NSVD. And, just look at how many people undertake plastic surgery as if it was nothing and at crappy medical centers...or in Mexico!

    I think you summed it up really well. Absolutely no tolerance for illness. When I was a child, it was pretty much expected that we'd run around with coughs and runny noses most of the winter. We didn't go to the doctor for everything!

    Now I have parents who expect that one dose of Tylenol or Motrin will "cure" a fever. "Well, I gave the tylenol and it went down but then it went back up!" (Imagine that!) Same thing with cough or cold meds.

    It's also very difficult to convince people that the best treatment for some things, like gastroenteritis, is "tincture of time." Hydrate appropriately, watch for dehydration, and wait it out. Your body is very efficiently trying to rid itself of something, let's not interfere with it!

    Oh, and by the way- if your first real meal after a bout of this is a chili cheese dog with fries on the side, your tummy just may let you know in no uncertain terms that this was not a good idea!:trout:

    I've also concluded that common sense is not really all that common.
  4. by   KeyMaster
    Quote from jlsRN
    I've noticed that these days "natural childbirth" = vaginal birth with an epidural. Whatever happened to Lamaze and going without drugs?

    Oops, I resemble that remark! As I told my family & friends - It's natural to be pain free!
  5. by   gentle
    I've also concluded that common sense is not really all that common.

    Common sense is wisdom passed from one generation to another or shared among friends. Wisdom is now purchased in the form of books, video tapes, dvds, or attending seminars. "Good ideas" are rarely freely given. Dh and I have learned that "good ideas" now cost us $150 for a 45 minute session.

    The "good ideas" or "expert advice" in our previous home, were free and shared among friends over coffee.

    Me first!!! This attitude has limited and removed freely given gracious behaviors as some people no longer wish to be abused by helping those who want "their needs/desires met first."

    No, common sense is no longer common. Neither is common courtesy.



    To return to the OP: (vent)

    I think the "my personal comfort" mentality is closely related to "me first, NOW". It is also accompanied by the, "you fix my child". Which of course the mother's hair is "perfect" along with her nails and dad is riding all over town on his new motorcycle or out the the lake in his new boat.

    I personally can't stand these adults. Their kids are a mess and I am stuck trying to reassemble the pieces through parental education: how to care for YOUR child.

    And then, the parents don't follow through because, it imposes on the "personal comfort" of their chosen lifestyle.

    Look, you can call them wimps-- the patients I mean. I think this mess is much deeper. Some of these people are just plain ole irresponsible lazy, knot-heads. It ain't just pain they can't take. They can't and won't take anything short of their "paid" lunch and smoke break, which by the way accumulate to over 1.5 hours.
  6. by   tvccrn
    My kids can attest to the fact that you aren't going to die if you have a fever of 100.8. My kids have lived through the flu, nasty colds, and normal childhood aches and pains. The fact that I'm a nurse really bugs my kids because they can't get the note from ER saying they can stay home from school. The saying in our house goes, "If it ain't fallin' off, you can still breathe, there isn't major blood spillage,or your not dead...it will be OK."

  7. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from tvccrn
    My kids can attest to the fact that you aren't going to die if you have a fever of 100.8. My kids have lived through the flu, nasty colds, and normal childhood aches and pains. The fact that I'm a nurse really bugs my kids because they can't get the note from ER saying they can stay home from school. The saying in our house goes, "If it ain't fallin' off, you can still breathe, there isn't major blood spillage,or your not dead...it will be OK."

    My house too . . . .

    And I've missed a burst eardrum in one kid and a broken arm in another kid.

    Oh well, it didn't kill them.

    As to "natural childbirth" . . . I had three of those the painful way - and with the 4th I decided an epidural was the way to go and I'm not a wimp.


    steph
  8. by   sjt9721
    Quote from stevielynn
    My house too . . . .

    And I've missed a burst eardrum
    steph

    My daughter was 18 months old with her first (and so far only) ear infection. I treated the on & off fever/runny nose for several days. Decided it was time to see the doc when I noticed the purulent crud draining from her ear!

    My poor kid...both her parents are from the school of "you'll be okay".
  9. by   RNcDreams
    It's quite frustrating when you're assessing a patient with a minor complaint, who says "I just wanted to get it looked at" when you ask them what made them come to the hospital, TODAY, for their back ache of 3 weeks.


    Then, when they are angry because they have waited 3 hours to be seen, they become angrier when you explain that the doctors are seeing other patients...

    and then angrier still when you explain patients are seen in order of acuity...

    at which point management will feed the behavior and give you a new script/goal/press ganey tactic to make them happier.... by babying them...

    and the cycle of dependence and entitlement goes on.
  10. by   AlwaysMovingUp
    A lot of people in my generation (I am in my twenties) are total wimps. I think this is for a plethora of reasons, one of which is "bad parenting." While it is true that even the best "on-top-of-things" parents can't force their adult children to behave once they are adults.....for children who are still young enough to be under their parents' wings, I think I've seen enough. Some parents let their children walk ALL OVER THEM without any kind of punishment for it. Some parents (not all!) let their children curse at them, throw things in the grocery store, hit/kick/pinch....it goes on and on...all the while, the parent stands there and smiles weakly and doesn't hold the child accountable for their actions, such as "when we get home, you are going to your room and you may not watch TV today, because of the way you are behaving right now." No wonder so many people get into their teenage and adult years and don't really understand what "being held accountable for their actions" means. GRRRRRRR.

    I swear...my two puppies are better behaved than half of the children I encounter when I am out and about.....ok, I'm off my soap box now.
  11. by   Lorie P.
    Quote from tvccrn
    My kids can attest to the fact that you aren't going to die if you have a fever of 100.8. My kids have lived through the flu, nasty colds, and normal childhood aches and pains. The fact that I'm a nurse really bugs my kids because they can't get the note from ER saying they can stay home from school. The saying in our house goes, "If it ain't fallin' off, you can still breathe, there isn't major blood spillage,or your not dead...it will be OK."

    Same goes in my house, my 9year old has asthma, never goes to the doc for it unless breathing treatments every 4 for a couple days doesn't do the trick then we go, she still goes to school, does her tx after lunch and before pe.

    Have a cousin that if her children have a temp of 100.1 and a cough, off to the doc and loads them up with all kinds of meds.

    Not me, my former 23 week 6 day micro preemie is my little yard monkey, she runs around most day barefooted with shorts on and I let her play in the rain( not thunderstorms) and she is very seldom sick expcet the asthma which falirs up about 2x a year.

    My family thinks I am for not rushing her to the doc for every little pain.

    Proud to say she has never been back in the hospital since the day we brought her home after her 4 month stay after being born 16 weeks early.

    And nope I don't have a wimpy child
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  13. by   ebear
    jlsRN,
    Oops!!! You got me on the Lamaze thing! Tried it--couldn't do it! Thank GOD for epidurals!!!!
    ebear

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