What's up with these nurse practitioner/DNP discussions - page 2
So I've been hearing that NP will no longer be able to attain that status with a master's level degree and that they must now have a doctorate of nursing practice?? Is what I am hearing right and when does this take affect. ... Read More
- 0i am not saying this is true for every state out there, it takes years to make this change. they are still working on it. they are saying that a masters degree cannot get you a np degree, you will need your doctorate. this change can take years, but this s what they are saying.
*** i don't know who your mystery "they" is but they talk a lot of bs. i suggest you discontinue listening to "they".
- 1Dec 10, '11 by llg GuideQuote from ribeyesteak... and in little more than 100 years ago, physicians did not need a university education. Prior to the early 1990's, physician education was not anything like it is today. Why don't you include them in your list? All professions have upgraded their educational requirements over the last 100 years (over the centuries, actually). Physicians were among the first to require doctoral level work (though they still only require a practice doctorate and not a PhD). The other disciplines are simply following suit as the knowledge and skills expected of their members have increased -- with the increased accountability and liability that goes along with those increased expectations.Hmm...I find this trend to be particularly irritating. This is what I call trying to legitimize health care fields to make them look more prestigious than they should be. I remember when pharmacy required just a BS degree. Now it's a professional "doctorate". Occupational therapy was just a BA degree. Now it's a masters degree. Physical therapy required just a bachelors degree no more than 10 years ago. They now need to have a Ph.D. -- which is just retarded considering that Ph.D.'s need to publish original research as a thesis.
- 0Dec 10, '11 by applewhiternI am just an RN, but I have several friends who are nurse practitioners, and yes, in certain areas the market is over-saturated. It seems that everybody and their brother wants to be an NP. Personally, I think this position should be doctorate prepared. I just wouldn't want the tuition debt unless I was guaranteed a job when I got out.
- 0Dec 10, '11 by OCNRN63Quote from healthstarWho is "they"?I am not saying this is true for every state out there, it takes years to make this change. They are still working on it. They are saying that a masters degree cannot get you a NP degree, you will need your Doctorate. This change can take years, but this s what They are saying.
- 0[quote=llg;5983365The other disciplines are simply following suit as the knowledge and skills expected of their members have increased -- [/quote]
*** What knowledge and skills are possessed or expected of a DNP prepared FNP that are not possessed or expected of an MSN prepared FNP?
- 0has there been a salary differentiation to date?
*** absolutely none i have seen or heard of. nor will there be. medicaid and insurance reimbursements are not going to be increased because of the education level of the practitioner. the trend is going the other way. for example just a few years ago there were two level of reimbursement for anesthesia. one for mdas and one for crnas. now the reimbursement for any procedure is the same for both. this is going to keep happening.
from what i understand there is yet to be a clearly defined role for a dnp in a healthcare org.
*** sure there is. it is and will be exactly the same as it is for the msn prepared practitioner.