Doctor of Nursing Practice (DNP): My Personal Pro's and Con's

Nursing opens a wealth of opportunities through academic advancement. One such option is the Doctor of Nursing Practice (DNP). This article does not aim to endorse or discredit this degree, rather, it attempts to explain the author's thoughts on how the degree fits in with his professional goals. Specialties Doctoral Article

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The Doctor of Nursing Practice or DNP degree has been one of the biggest buzzwords in Advanced Practice Nursing. The mere mention of it creates a stir of emotions and strong opposing opinions perhaps of the same magnitude as the liberal versus conservative views prevalent in our current political climate. Unlike nursing buzzwords that come and go depending on what is en vogue at the moment, current Advanced Practice Nurses (APN's) who hold stronger feelings of opposition rather than agreement with the degree would be foolish to ignore the issue. There are strong indicators that support the argument that this degree is here for good.

For one, Advanced Practice Nursing while a smaller subgroup within the larger nursing milieu has shown tremendous ability to self-regulate and adapt to change. Indeed, the speed at which change have occurred in the APN environment is astonishing. The Nurse Practitioner movement, for instance, borne out of an idea in the 1960's, have now blossomed into a membership of more than 180,000 professionals (Pearson Report, 2011). In that period of time, Nurse Practitioner (NP) training completely transitioned to post-licensure nursing programs leading to a certificate to the current graduate degree offerings at the Master's and Doctoral level. The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) have even kept up with this change and will only grant provider status to NP's who are trained in a graduate degree program.

One can argue that the number of DNP programs have consistently grown in numbers since the first discussion on building a practice doctorate in nursing began in 2002. The American Association of Colleges of Nursing (AACN) lists 139 institutions with DNP programs around the country, roughly 20% of the total number of member institutions totaling 670 (AACN Program List). Twenty percent may seem small but bear in mind that not all AACN member institutions are offering graduate-level programs that have a potential to be transitioned to DNP. Also, the current program list does not include online DNP programs offered by for-profit institutions that have various locations in different states of jurisdiction. My take home message from these data is that while the recommendation for making the DNP a requirement for entry to practice as an APN is farther from becoming a reality by 2015, the pace at which programs are opening up will continue and the degree is here to stay whether we like it or not.

The DNP was just an idea when I finished my training as an Acute Care Nurse Practitioner (ACNP) in 2003. At the time, academic options were clear to me: pursue a Master's degree with my preferred nurse practitioner focus; get certified in the specialty, and voila, I am all set to practice as an ACNP. The option for further academic advancement at the Doctoral level was also very clear: the next step is a PhD or a DNSc both of which have become identical in content. In fact, numerous faculty members encouraged us to consider returning to the halls of the same university (or maybe even another institution) as a PhD student at some point in our career. The idea had a glamorous appeal to it in my mind at the time and I did entertain the thought of following through. Even to this day, I still struggle with the idea and have not come to a conclusion on what the right Doctoral education path to take. What's worse, this whole DNP agenda threw a curveball in my decision-making process.

As an Acute Care Nurse Practitioner since 2004, I have matured and continue to grow professionally in my knowledge and skills as a clinician. I have stayed in the field of Critical Care as an NP since 2005 and have felt this to be my niche early in my career. In my personal quest both for academic advancement and to grow as a healthcare provider, I do not share the sentiments that the ideal MSN to DNP Bridge should be loaded with clinical content by adding so called "residencies". Don't get me wrong, I feel strongly that clinical content could undeniably be improved in the current manifestations of BSN to MSN or BSN to DNP programs for NP's. But I'm being selfish in my personal goals: since I already practice in a heavily patient care-based setting where knowledge and skills already get tested daily, my needs are different. In other words, I do not need a DNP to get a "residency" in Critical Care because I live and breathe in this specialty day in and day out.

DNP courses that deal with leadership, management, the politics of healthcare, and the financial aspect of providing healthcare can be appealing to individuals in my professional level. This is the reason why there already exist multidisciplinary degree options outside of nursing that addressed this content even before the DNP was conceived. I remember a Cardiothoracic Surgeon I knew who went to a prestigious graduate school of business for a Master's degree in Healthcare Administration. The guy had big dreams of being a division chief or a CEO. A nurse manager in one of the units pursued a Master's degree in Nursing Service Administration because she had high hopes of climbing the ladder ultimately as a Chief Nursing Officer one day. Though I consider myself a clinician foremost, a business degree is a must should I decide to pursue a role in administration. That said, I do not think a DNP is necessary if I was to pursue this direction in my career given the other degree options that already exist.

It seems to me like the DNP marketing machine has been trying to convince NP's like me to think that we need a DNP in order to learn from courses that focus on translating research evidence into clinical practice. I find this to be untrue and insulting to currently practicing NP's trained under the Master's degree model who use evidence-based practice in providing care to their patients every day. However, a Capstone Project utilizing Translational Research is a great idea in itself and though such an activity can be accomplished outside of academia, the DNP student who conducts this endeavor is provided with structure and mentoring from experts in any field of inquiry they are interested in. This particular aspect of the DNP convinces me of the value in getting this degree.

The last argument I have been trying to contend with is the DNP's future in terms level of acceptance in academic roles in schools and colleges of nursing. There has not been a straight answer on how universities determine academic ranking for DNP-prepared faculty as this continue to vary depending on the institution. In the years I've been at the bedside as a nurse and as an Advanced Practice Nurse, I have acquired a great deal of past experiences and lessons learned that are worthy of being passed on to new generations of nurses who wish to follow the path I took. A role in the academia, though not attractive at the present given the low earning potential, is inevitable in my future. However, I seek assurance that the degree I pursue is held at the highest regard in terms of advancement in the field of nursing education. It is still tempting to forego the DNP for the much respected PhD in Nursing.

I would consider the DNP if I could learn what I really feel I need to improve my practice: Extra courses in becoming proficient in reading x-rays, ultrasounds, CT scans, and MRIs, and additional work in subtleties of reading EKGs, etc. I DO NOT need any more theorist nonsense - I am aware of what I need. If there was a place where I could design my own doctorate program, I would probably do it.

Specializes in Psychiatry, ICU, ER.
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What's the difference between the PhD and DNP? They aren't the same?

And why is it so complicated? An MD is either an MD or DO, not this and this and this.....why isn't nursing the same?

An MD is not, technically, a doctoral degree. It is a professional degree, as is the DNP. The JD, obtained by lawyers, is a Juris Doctor... again, it is a professional degree and not a doctorate. It is equivalent to a bachelor's degree in other countries (e.g. in the UK it is equivalent to the MBBS). Residency is graduate MD education. There are MDs and JDs who go back for further doctoral-level training and are MD PhDs and JD PhDs, respectively. Nursing wants to adopt this model.

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This is incorrect. Only 500 hours after completion of the master's degree? Not according to Baylor's curiculum for their FNP

The University of Washington, as one instance, requires 1,000 hours for the DNP degree. However, I can apply my 700 Master's-level clinical hours towards my DNP. So, a DNP (in addition to the ridiculous coursework) would require only 300 clinical hours, which is slightly more than what I was doing every semester for my last two semesters of grad school. (And would probably add little to nothing to my clinical knowledge unless I were able to pick my clinical site and focus.)

In any case, it certainly does not compare to physician training, though I wish it did in some respects.

I agree that the DNP ius a worthy goal, but for us bedside expert clinicians, it is a title for....WHAT? Any of us that read academic journal articles can understand research, I think. So shouldn't there be a ladder, if you will, to check off levels of clinical expertise, or clinical knowledge that ensures the clinician is REALLY a high level nursing practicioner? The key word here is practicioner.

Although I do not have a DNP, I am an advaced practice clinician...and no. My Master's is in business, not nursing (I was burned out of nursing and the intitial theory classes borred me to death!) Now, I am sorry I did not complete that nursing degree, because even though I practice as an educator and as the pseudo CNS, I have been told, " You have the clinical background but so not have the intials." Does that make sense???? At least the staff I taught and mentors is a top notch group that really learned how to clinically and critically think!

apocatastasis said:
I'm a new NP, received my Master's 3 months ago. I have no complaints about the clinical portion of my MSN program. But we would have been well-served with MORE than 700 clinical hours. I would love, and willingly pay for, a doctoral program that would provide me with additional didactic and clinical training in psychotherapy, neuroscience, and psychopharmacology. You know, USEFUL stuff that we're supposed to know.

Would the DNP provide those experiences? Absolutely not, because this clinical/practice doctorate is neither clinical nor practical.

Well said! I second this! I am a PMHNP. In the current controversial atmosphere surrounding DNP, I would go back for post-master FNP over DNP. At least, I get to expand my knowledge about the medical aspects of APRN. If I have to get DNP in order to add on specialty, then I will do it. But I would rather save the money and do it without getting the doctorate. I am willing to 2x tuition to take those courses (super-advanced psychopharm/more advanced neurobiology) in DNP program. If NPs does not want to teach them (I am sure they can), then hire PharmD, psychologist, or PhD or MD or whoever to teach! I am willing to pay to get a good education.

Please don't get me wrong. I HIGHLY admire advanced practice nurses' ambition to upgrade their education to professional doctorate. It's about time! It is a very noble idea. But we need to increase our base knowledge in every aspect. Yes, nursing theories are our knowledge base. But remember that we have two types of knowledge in nursing (base knowledge and derived knowledge). The "derived" knowledge that we used DAILY in patient care was also "borrowed" from other discipline. Therefore, this portion of knowledge is needed to be expanded as well in doctorate level, especially in "clinical/practice doctorate."

When pharmacists moved from BSpharm to doctorate, they add more pharmacotherapeutic courses in addition to more clinical hours to justify the doctorate elvel. Advanced practice nursing should do the same by adding more advanced course (eg. Seminars on special topics in pharmacology/neurobiology/obstetrics etc etc)

Please do not look on the negative side of the emergence of DNP. We are already on the “right track” to be on par with other professional doctorates. Maybe we were just in the rush to create the doctorate program and we did not think it thru yet. The next step is to “at least” revise the curriculum to be more clinical focused by adding advanced didactic courses in the specialty in addition to more clinical hours. Nurse educators, please listen to us (prospective DNP students). Yes, EBP, epidemiology, and public health policy courses are great and awesome! However, please do not forget other skills that are necessary to become a more advanced & independent practitioner. Yes, APNs will independently create their own curriculum but please remember that other discipline (MD, PharmD, PA) are more than ready to critique/comment on our curriculum as well.

Specializes in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU.

@suetje - to say that you function as a "pseudo-CNS" and "advanced practice clinician" I would be concerned about using these terms "CNS" is a protected title.

I would sincerely hope that your hospital does not call you as an educator (which is a great and honorable title in itself) a CNS or "advanced practice clinician."

Specializes in Psychiatry, ICU, ER.
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@suetje - to say that you function as a "pseudo-CNS" and "advanced practice clinician" I would be concerned about using these terms "CNS" is a protected title.

I would sincerely hope that your hospital does not call you as an educator (which is a great and honorable title in itself) a CNS or "advanced practice clinician."

That depends on the state, I would think.... "nurse" isn't even protected in every state.

harmonizer said:
Please do not look on the negative side of the emergence of DNP. We are already on the “right track” to be on par with other professional doctorates. Maybe we were just in the rush to create the doctorate program and we did not think it thru yet. The next step is to “at least” revise the curriculum to be more clinical focused by adding advanced didactic courses in the specialty in addition to more clinical hours. Nurse educators, please listen to us (prospective DNP students). Yes, EBP, epidemiology, and public health policy courses are great and awesome! However, please do not forget other skills that are necessary to become a more advanced & independent practitioner. Yes, APNs will independently create their own curriculum but please remember that other discipline (MD, PharmD, PA) are more than ready to critique/comment on our curriculum as well.

Newbie here so please excuse me if I am out of line...

It seems to me that one way the DNP could be improved is if it was turned into some kind of a specialists degree. For example: one could get their masters level FNP and then go onto a DNP specialization in Dermatology, oncology, etc. In this way you could incorporate the extra theory and management but also increase your clinical knowledge base. Does that make sense to anyone?

SycamoreStudent said:
Newbie here so please excuse me if I am out of line...

It seems to me that one way the DNP could be improved is if it was turned into some kind of a specialists degree. For example: one could get their masters level FNP and then go onto a DNP specialization in Dermatology, oncology, etc. In this way you could incorporate the extra theory and management but also increase your clinical knowledge base. Does that make sense to anyone?

Adding specialized course is another great way to improve the DNP curriculum. However, they can just simply increase the clinical content in the basic curriculum. Many schools already have 2-course sequence of pharmacology and pathophysiology. All state boards can just increase the requirement from 3 credits to 6 credits of patho and 6 credits of pharm. There are lots to learn from these courses and one 3 credit course is not enough. We had 2 courses of patho at our school and I love the fact that we have opportunities to learn more in details. In addition to this, they can increase the pharmacology course within specialty eg. pharmacology for WHNP, pharmacology for ACNP just like PMHNP programs that requires psychopharmacology. They can also increases the clinical courses within the existing specialties without further specialization eg. neurobiology for PMHNP, consult-liaison roles for PMHNP, reproductive physiology for WHNP, applied biochemistry for nurse practitioners, Genetics and Genomics for nurse practitioners etc..etc.. Special topics in___ etc etc..

Great post.

I am in the process of finishing my BSN with the end goal of NP.

Of the two two major universities in my state, both have, or are in the process of phasing out MN in favor of DNP-focused programs.

DNP programs not very sophisticated. They are like Master's prepared programs. Waste of money at this time.

Specializes in ACNP-BC, Adult Critical Care, Cardiology.

Glad readers are still discussing. The main reason why I wrote this article is to share my thoughts on how a DNP would fit with my goals. Clearly, I am not convinced it does. It should be an individual decision for anyone. As there is no mandatory requirement for APN's to get a DNP, the more reason for us to make it an optional route.

I support DNP movement. In short, I think DNP should be a requirement BUT the curriculum should be revised to include more clinical content