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No. 20
from tater.jake
Old Mar 20, 2009, 12:29 AM
Updated Mar 20, 2009 at 12:41 AM by tater.jake

I don't think Robert is listening anymore, but it's mighty rude of him to come here and flame our school in an attempt to get even. His girlfriend neglected to get the details, and that's her fault. Her degree is still valid in 48 states. I find it hard to believe that she didn't know about CA's problem with excelsior. EC blares those details on their website, and I've also gotten email notices about it. I'm here to tell you that if she spent $20k on her program, it's because she chose to. That’s not a necessary bill. I just paid for my clinical today, and I'm only in it $5,500.

Excelsior is an NLN accredited college. I work with lots of EC grads, one of which is an administrator at my hospital.
My local university isn't accredited by the NLN because they can't find enough master's prepared instructors. I had horrible experiences there, and that's one of the main reasons why I chose Excelsior College. EC has enabled me to work while I get my degree, and maintain a low-stress home life as I study. I think that's priceless, cuz I'm a "what if I died tomorrow" kind of guy. I like to get out on my mountain bike and not have deadlines ruining my recreation.

EC has been great to me so far. After a little over a year of NC exams, I just have my CPNE left. I think I could have done this much in 6 months or less if I really pushed it. As long as you are a proactive person and aren't looking for a scapegoat for your personal failures, EC is a great option I think. If you want someone to blame when things get crappy, go to a brick and mortar school. Distance learning isn't for everyone, but it is becoming a more prominent and accepted form of education.
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No. 21
Old Mar 20, 2009, 12:43 AM

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Can I get a A-Men


Originally Posted by mtb83201 View Post
I don't think Robert is listening anymore, but it's mighty rude of him to come here and flame our school in an attempt to get even. His girlfriend neglected to get the details, and that's her fault. Her degree is still valid in 48 states. I find it hard to believe that she didn't know about CA's problem with excelsior. EC blares those details on their website, and I've also gotten email notices about it. I'm here to tell you that if she spent $20k on her program, it's because she chose to. That’s not a necessary bill. I just paid for my clinical today, and I'm only in it $5,500.

Excelsior is an NLN accredited college. I work with lots of EC grads, one of which is an administrator at my hospital.
My local university isn't accredited by the NLN because they can't find enough master's prepared instructors. I had horrible experiences there, and that's one of the main reasons why I chose Excelsior College. EC has enabled me to work while I get my degree, and maintain a low-stress home life as I study. I think that's priceless, cuz I'm a "what if I died tomorrow" kind of guy. I like to get out on my mountain bike and not have deadlines ruining my recreation.

EC has been great to me so far. After a little over a year of NC exams, I just have my CPNE left. I think I could have done this much in 6 months or less if I really pushed it. As long as you are a proactive person and aren't looking for a scapegoat for your personal failures, EC is a great option I think. If you want someone to blame when things get crappy, go to a brick and mortar school. Distance learning isn't for everyone, but it is becoming a more prominent and accepted form of education.
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No. 22
from tater.jake
Old Mar 20, 2009, 12:46 AM

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this robert guy and his malicious, insulting posts ought to be booted from the site. "Essentially a worthless degree?" I don't think other hard working nursing students would stand for that kind of talk about the degrees that they're working for.
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No. 23
Old Mar 20, 2009, 01:01 AM

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I am very Pro EC even before I started the program but especially since I have finished...you bet your sweet A** it makes me angry when people degrade my school....Ok now that I have said my peace ...Ill go get my Xanax
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No. 24
from R0xyg4l
Old Mar 20, 2009, 02:03 PM

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I'm surprised that employers are looking at where she graduated from. In the long run what matters is the fact that she has her RN license. No matter how you get to the NCLEX, passing it makes you an RN just like everyone else.
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No. 25
Old Mar 20, 2009, 02:54 PM

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Something has to be up with this school when multiple states don't accept their degrees, California, Georgia, Florida..you don't ever see this with people who go through the state programs and many private standard universities, least not from what I have read.

Not blasting, just asking if you have insight on why...I also went to their website, they need to be much more open about the limitations of getting a degree in this program and then finding out you have states you can't even work in. Also how can you do theory only in 4 months, when the rest of us have to take theory and clinicals for 2 years? For example at my school we have to get 1300 hours of clinicals Even for accelerated programs like at Oklahoma State University which is all online it takes minimum of 15 months. Again just asking, just doesnt make sense to me...
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No. 26
from caliotter3
Old Mar 20, 2009, 03:31 PM

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States that have placed restrictions on EC graduates have a vested interest in limiting tuition dollars to institutions within their own states.
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No. 27
from Ebony_RN
Old Mar 20, 2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PatMicNic View Post
Something has to be up with this school when multiple states don't accept their degrees, California, Georgia, Florida..you don't ever see this with people who go through the state programs and many private standard universities, least not from what I have read.
This is untrue. You may get your RN license in the state of Florida as long as you have your LPN license already.
Unfortunately the main people who know nothing about the program are the ones spreading incorrect information about Excelsior.
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No. 28
from bjbabs24
Old Mar 20, 2009, 05:10 PM

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To PatMicNic I can try to answer a few of your questions. This program is done for people who already have a base in nursing such as LPNs, and Paramedics. For example as a LPN I already have a year of schooling done which includes pharm., clinicals etc... so people going through this programs have clinical hours already under our belts. We also have to take the prereqs. such as microbiology etc... so the time you see it takes to get through the program does not include all of the hours we already have put into this plus the experience we have accumulated over the years. For instance I have experience in pediatrics with babies with trachs, feeding tubes, dialysis, oxygen managment and in long term working on medicare unit where I have experience in IV's, wound care including wound vacs., giving meds. to 38 pt. in 8 hour shifts and managerial experience hiring/firing, troubleshooting, etc... So it isn't like we stroll into the program with nothing and then take a couple of tests. Each test are done at a private institution Pearson Vue where we are monitored to make sure of ethical test taking. Our clinical is then a test where you have to be 100% that is why such a high fail rate. It is not a check off to see our skills but an actual test.
It isn't multiple states but a few that have an issue with the program. It has been around for many years and not something new which I think is a big misconception out there but it is getting a lot of press lately due to the current issue with Georgia. If you read some of the things presented by Georgia their own reps. have been giving out many untrue statements which leads to many not even understand because they aren't doing their own homework.
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No. 29
Old Mar 20, 2009, 05:55 PM

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This program is designed for people with significant clinical experience. I have put 50K+ clinical hours into nursing during my time as a nurse and have gained the clinical knowledge to go with it....Why would I want to sit in a classroom for a year to hear all of that mess again when I have done it over and over ...We all know that the real learning starts on the floor. There are people that can knock out the theory exams that quick because we have been doing this forever...There are only 2 states that do not accept EC at this point that is CA and Maryland (I believe) at the end of the year I think it is we can add Virgina to the list..


Originally Posted by PatMicNic View Post
Something has to be up with this school when multiple states don't accept their degrees, California, Georgia, Florida..you don't ever see this with people who go through the state programs and many private standard universities, least not from what I have read.

Not blasting, just asking if you have insight on why...I also went to their website, they need to be much more open about the limitations of getting a degree in this program and then finding out you have states you can't even work in. Also how can you do theory only in 4 months, when the rest of us have to take theory and clinicals for 2 years? For example at my school we have to get 1300 hours of clinicals Even for accelerated programs like at Oklahoma State University which is all online it takes minimum of 15 months. Again just asking, just doesnt make sense to me...
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