Is your Facility 'forcing' you to get the Flu Vaccine? - page 2

My company have a new policy that if you do not want to receive the flu vaccine this year by end November, then you have to wear a mask within 6 feet of all patients. So they are not saying you... Read More

  1. Visit  Peppermintcake profile page
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    I had mine this morning. It's a condition of my continued employment.
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  2. Visit  KelRN215 profile page
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    My current employer, no. When I worked in the hospital, for years it was "strongly recommended" and you had to sign a declination form if you didn't want to take it. I declined for 4 years without an issue (although my PCP did convince me to take it one year when I was traveling to Africa- that was when I learned that I react to it) and then last year, they instituted the "flu shot or fired" policy. I took it and had the same reaction I'd had 3 years earlier... fever, severe nausea (fortunately no vomiting because with my chronic medical conditions, that could land me in the hospital), headache. I did enjoy saying (when they called me to pick up an extra shift the day after I got the shot, "No, I'm sick from the flu shot you made me get." After things at said facility became unbearable last fall/winter, I wished that I just hadn't gotten it and let myself get fired...
  3. Visit  SHGR profile page
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    Quote from mjs2118
    YES.. At my facility, if you do not get your annual flu shot, you do not get your annual merit increase.. :/
    Increase of what, pay? I don't remember this concept. I get the flu shot every year, so I'd like a raise, please.
    NutmeggeRN, JZ_RN, SE_BSN_RN, and 1 other like this.
  4. Visit  nrsang97 profile page
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    Quote from CorazonDeOro
    Last year we had the mask option, this year that is not a choice. Its flu shot or fired (unless you have a documented religious or medical reason with some long form to fill out).

    Its ridiculous.
    Do we work at the same place? No more mask this year for the ones who don't want the vaccine here.

    I do get the flu shot, but I respect that some don't.
    JZ_RN likes this.
  5. Visit  itsnowornever profile page
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    Quote from erinmarie320
    At our nursing school we must have it to get into the program. If we don't get them every year while in school, we are automatically booted out, with very few exceptions. It is unfortunate for those of us who might otherwise choose not to get the flu vaccine, but such is life I guess.
    This was such a load of CRAP that we were told! I have NEVER had anything other than a minor cold, got the flu shot had a fever of 104/103 and AST/ALT levels TRIPLED without reason and a nasty rash broke out on my knuckles (read that there is a liver autoimmune issue causing these probs, cleared of that). I didn't take Tylenol for the fever (don't believe in it unless you are in pain; was just hot, achy and TIRED!) or any OTC meds. No reason for my illness. Labs up the wazoo. I blame the flu shot. Ready for more fun with work this winter since I'm assuming we will be required for L&D.
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  6. Visit  itsnowornever profile page
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    Might I add only half of us got the shot, other half didn't and they were fine. Allowed in clinical and everything.
    JZ_RN likes this.
  7. Visit  born2circulateRN profile page
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    It isn't my facility, but the state where I reside is mandating all healthcare workers that are in contact with patients/providing patient care receive the flu vaccine. I believe the mist, shot, or mask is offered. I received the mist; last time I received the shot (which was my first time) I had flu symptoms for 2 weeks...not a pretty picture.
  8. Visit  MN-Nurse profile page
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    Quote from ~*Stargazer*~
    Whether you receive the flu vaccine or not is protected health information. It could be argued that by requiring you to mask if you have not had the vaccine, your employer is violating your privacy.
    Working as an RN lets everyone know you passed the NCLEX. How can we live with this violation of privacy.

    Vaccines work. Get the flu shot or go work in another profession but either way, stop whining about it.
  9. Visit  Anna Flaxis profile page
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    Quote from llg
    Not really. It falls into the same category as requiring you to get other immunizations (e.g. varicella, rubella, mumps, hep C, etc.), tetanus shot, your annual TB test, etc. They are allowed to establish such things as conditions of employment and have been doing so successfully for decades.
    Actually, you can be exempted from mandatory vaccines for religious or medical reasons. You could work shoulder to shoulder with someone who has never had any vaccines. You just wouldn't know it because they don't have to wear or display anything that would make that information public.

    While it's true that at-will employers can make all kinds of crazy rules for conditions of employment, facilities with collective bargaining agreements cannot just make new conditions of employment without negotiating with the union first.

    And since when did they finally make a vaccine for Hep C? I must have missed the press release.
    Esme12, SE_BSN_RN, and KelRN215 like this.
  10. Visit  Anna Flaxis profile page
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    Quote from MN-Nurse
    Working as an RN lets everyone know you passed the NCLEX. How can we live with this violation of privacy.
    I was referring to HIPAA's Privacy Rule.

    Vaccines work.
    Oh really?

    From the CDC:

    How well the flu vaccine works (or its ability to prevent influenza illness) can range widely from season to season and also can vary depending on who is being vaccinated. At least two factors play an important role in determining the likelihood that influenza vaccine will protect a person from influenza illness: 1) characteristics of the person being vaccinated (such as their age and health), and 2) the similarity or "match" between the influenza viruses in the vaccine and those spreading in the community. During years when the viruses in the vaccine and circulating viruses are not well matched, it’s possible that no benefit from vaccination may be observed. During years when the viruses in the vaccine and circulating viruses are very well matched, it’s possible to measure substantial benefits from vaccination in terms of preventing influenza illness. However, even during years when the vaccine match is very good, the benefits of vaccination will vary across the population, depending on characteristics of the person being vaccinated and even, potentially, which vaccine was used.
    Get the flu shot or go work in another profession but either way, stop whining about it.
    I don't think those are my only options.
    brandy1017, KelRN215, SCSTxRN, and 2 others like this.
  11. Visit  erinmarie320 profile page
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    Quote from itsnowornever

    This was such a load of CRAP that we were told! I have NEVER had anything other than a minor cold, got the flu shot had a fever of 104/103 and AST/ALT levels TRIPLED without reason and a nasty rash broke out on my knuckles (read that there is a liver autoimmune issue causing these probs, cleared of that). I didn't take Tylenol for the fever (don't believe in it unless you are in pain; was just hot, achy and TIRED!) or any OTC meds. No reason for my illness. Labs up the wazoo. I blame the flu shot.
    I agree. The only years I've gotten sick are the ones I've been forced to get the vaccine for school, so I don't feel it helped. I've also had similar reactions to it as you, but nothing medically emergent so I cannot be exempt from getting it in the future. Our school= very strict about it. There is no getting around it here. Hopefully when I graduate, my future place of work won't have the same rules!
  12. Visit  Samael profile page
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    Quote from ~*Stargazer*~
    Whether you receive the flu vaccine or not is protected health information. It could be argued that by requiring you to mask if you have not had the vaccine, your employer is violating your privacy.
    Some facilities agree. They'll simply fire employees who refuse.

    I must be the odd one here. I get a flu shot every year even if no one tells me to. Evidence-based medicine persuades me to.
    SE_BSN_RN, SHGR, and Luckyyou like this.
  13. Visit  Samael profile page
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    Quote from CDC
    How well the flu vaccine works (or its ability to prevent influenza illness) can range widely from season to season and also can vary depending on who is being vaccinated.
    No medical therapy is 100% effective, though the HPV vaccine is pretty close.

    I used to get the flu periodically, as many people do. In the 10+ years since I've been getting the flu vaccine, I only had the flu once: H1N1, for which I hadn't gotten a vaccine.

    I'm much happier not getting the flu every (approximately) third winter. I'm also pretty sure I haven't infected anyone else with the flu since I haven't been infected with it myself.

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