Tracking Bird Flu Cases
Bird flu deserves its own thread for tracking suspected and confirmed cases. It's not the pandemic virus, but it is still an ongoing and significant threat because of its virulence. As Margaret Chan, the Director General of the WHO says, we do not know how H5N1 will react under pressure from the pandemic virus, H1N1. All of the countries with endemic H5N1 are also reporting cases of swine flu. As everyone should know by now, the new concern revolves around what will happen if the two viruses co-infect the same host. Flu viruses exchange genetic material with each other all of the time. Right now we have a pandemic virus that is very transmissible, but does not kill the majority of people infected. Bird flu, on the other hand has a case fatality ratio (CFR) of around 60%.
In the past year, something different began to happen in Egypt. We started seeing many cases of young toddlers infected with mild cases of bird flu there. But, we also saw some older children and adults that had fatal cases. No one has yet explained why the disease began to change in Egypt. Just prior to the beginning of the swine flu cases appearing in the US and Mexico, the WHO was going to send in a team to Egypt to investigate why this was so. And, then the swine flu pandemic began in earnest, leaving this question unanswered. Why this situation has changed in Egypt but not in Indonesia, is most likely very important information.
Egypt continues to try to isolate swine flu cases. At some point, they won't be able to contain that virus, and will have to bow to the inevitable. Nobody knows what will happen then, but the Egyptians are clearly concerned. Remember, this is the country that slaughtered its entire pig population a few months ago to international dismay. Maybe they were right to do so, as we are now finding swine flu in pigs in Canada, Argentina and Australia. Pigs, the perfect mixing vessels for influenzas, may have been harboring the current swine flu for years undetected because they are almost never tested in most countries unless they are sick. This lack of disease surveillance is now being compensated for by a heightened awareness and increased testing of pig herds in many countries.
With all of that being said, here is a translation regarding a new case of bird flu, H5N1 in another child in Egypt. They do not state the child's age in this article, and some translations are saying that this is a male child. They would have isolated her anyway with bird flu, but with swine flu also in Egypt, they are likely to be very worried. Descriptions of these cases almost always mention dead birds being found in the same location. That of course, is going to be helpful in determing which flu they are dealing with at least for now, but maybe not later...
Egypt - Case #82
Quote from www.flutrackers.com
D. Abdel-Rahman Shahin, official spokesman of the Ministry of Health
The Ministry of Health on Sunday, a new human case of bird flu, a girl from a province of Kafr el-Sheikh for a total of 82 case of injuries so far.
A statement by the Ministry of Health said on Sunday that the new situation of the girl child is Muhammad Mustafa Ahmed Rania from the village of "Sidi Ghazi," the Department of Kafr El-Sheikh governorate of Kafr el-Sheikh.
The statement pointed out that the disease developed symptoms on July 24 of this hospital was incorporated in fevers of Kafr el-Sheikh on July 25 with a high temperature, running nose and cough after exposure to dead household birds, suspected of being infected with bird flu.
He also pointed out that the statement was given the drug "Tamiflu" as soon as the suspicion of being infected with the disease and her condition is stable and satisfactory communications are being carried out and procedures for the transfer to the hospital in the capital Cairo for the completion of treatment.
Sep 9, '09
by indigo girl
It is worrisome that the virus has outpaced the avian influenza vaccine because it puts the humans in the area at risk for H5N1 infection. The number of birds involved is very high.
Indonesia continues its policy of censorship about human cases.
It is a bad situation all around that swine flu has also been found in Indonesia. We now know that swine flu can infect birds as well as mammals as we just learned about the turkeys infected in Chile in addition to infected pigs in Canada, Argentina and Australia.
There is concern that the two influenzas will exchange genetic material.
Quote from crofsblogs.typepad.com
Indonesia: Bird flu virus attacks vaccinated chickens
Via Bird Flu Information Corner, a translated report from Pikiran Rakyat: Purwokerto, Central Java ::: Bird flu virus attacks vaccinated chickens. Excerpt:
Bird flu H5N1 attacked hundred thousands of layer chickens in several farms in Kabupaten Banyumas, Cental Java. Infected chickens had received avian influenza vaccination.
Bird flu massive attack was distributed evenly in Sumbang, Karanglewes, Kedungbanteng Serat and Cilongok within weeks.
The story goes on to say that the virus didn't kill the vaccinated chickens, but suppressed egg production.
Last edit by indigo girl on Sep 10, '09
Sep 24, '09
by indigo girl
Quote from RuRnurse?
I am suggesting that we ALL just calm down, take a deep breath, and THINK about this! The way it's being handled now is so knee-jerk and hasty, it can't HELP but turn out badly. Fear and panic always screws up the thinking process, and what we need now is clear-headed thinking, not blind reactions.
Our elected officials seem to be drinking the Kool-aid here, and we are seeing things like what is happening in NY and Massachusetts. Knee-jerk responses to the fear-mongering of the CDC and WHO, etc. Just like after 9-11, when our government used the fear of another terrorist attack to take away or revise some of our rights, it's being done again, this time with the fear of pandemic disease.
The trouble is, after the so-called "emergency" has passed, try getting those rights back again!
You realize that this thread is on bird flu suspected cases, right? It is not on vaccine or govt policy or knee jerk reactions.
It is now September 2009. The Baxter story was posted at allnurses in Feb 2009, post #54:
I am not sure if you realize this or not, but Baxter is not one of the 5 companies licensed to make flu vaccine for the US market.
The five companies are: MedImmune, Novartis AG, Sanofi-Aventis SA, GlaxoSmithKline PLC and CSL Ltd.
Again, I am documenting bird flu suspected and confirmed cases. If I want to talk about vaccine policy, I go start a thread on it or go to one in progress, and state my views, post commentary from elsewhere or give documention.
I try not to derail threads or go off topic though I probably do occasionally do this, I at least try not to out of courtesy for the person who started the post. I would not attempt to derail your threads, please show me the same respect.
Last edit by indigo girl on Oct 20, '09