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Jun 15, 2009 08:48 PM

Have you gone to giving Epo SC?

by Valerie Salva Premium Member

I'm at a clinic now where all the Epo is given SC. I know the big for-profit companies have been fighting Medicare on this, because they make a lot of money on Epo.

But, I have seen that the pts' H&Hs go up faster, and stay in acceptable range longer, and on lower doses using SC administration. Of course, the pts don't like getting shots q tx.


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Old Jun 21, 2009, 05:39 AM

Default Re: Have you gone to giving Epo SC?
The H&H goes up faster if its given SC? Why not give the patient the choice? Ask them if they will take it SC and have the doctor write either/or. Never heard that it made a difference, but am all for it if it works.
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Old Jun 21, 2009, 05:52 PM

Pill Bottle Re: Have you gone to giving Epo SC?
We still give it through the Saline line during HD. So many of my pts actually comment about the length of the needles and how he/she is happy that it is not SC.
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Old Jun 22, 2009, 07:37 PM

Default Re: Have you gone to giving Epo SC?
our PD patients give themselves their EPO SubQ, but that's standard, I guess.
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Old Jun 22, 2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blondeamazonRN View Post
The H&H goes up faster if its given SC? Why not give the patient the choice? Ask them if they will take it SC and have the doctor write either/or. Never heard that it made a difference, but am all for it if it works.
HEMODIALYSIS — EPO given subcutaneously three times a week will maintain the hematocrit at the same level and at a lower dose than intravenous EPO. In almost all published studies, subcutaneous administration is associated with a 25 to 50 percent EPO dose reduction [1-8]. As an example, an unblinded 26 week study evaluated 208 chronic hemodialysis patients who were randomized to either subcutaneous or intravenous therapy; the target hematocrit was 30 to 33 percent [6]. The average weekly dose of EPO was 32 percent less for those randomly assigned to the subcutaneous regimen (94 versus 150 U/kg). The average hematocrit and hemoglobin levels were similar for both groups, and only one patient randomized to subcutaneous therapy withdrew because of pain.
Continued...
http://www.uptodate.com/patients/con...GBBcyvkvnb9klI


Subcutaneous versus intravenous administration of erythropoietin improves its efficiency for the treatment of anaemia in haemodialysis patients
http://ndt.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/co...ct/10/supp6/40

Urinary loss of erythropoietin after intravenous versus subcutaneous epoetin-beta in preterm infants.

Langer J, Obladen M, Dame C.
Klinik für Neonatologie, Campus Virchow-Klinikum, Charité-Universitätsmedizin, Berlin, Germany.
Hematopoietic and non-hematopoietic effects of recombinant erythropoietin (Epo) given to preterm infants are controversially discussed. Because renal loss of Epo was significantly higher after intravenous versus subcutaneous Epoetin-beta administration, we suggest a reconsideration of whether subcutaneous recombinant Epo is more efficient and safer because of lower peaks of circulating Epo.
PMID: 18410782 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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Old Jun 25, 2009, 07:42 PM

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Are you giving the Epo during tx or after tx? We had one pt that was in a study being conducted by the VA. We had to give him his epo after tx was completed. His ranges stayed within goal most of the time with just a very small dose.
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Old Jun 26, 2009, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by workingmomRN View Post
Are you giving the Epo during tx or after tx? We had one pt that was in a study being conducted by the VA. We had to give him his epo after tx was completed. His ranges stayed within goal most of the time with just a very small dose.
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from Tish88
Old Jun 28, 2009, 07:21 AM

Default Re: Have you gone to giving Epo SC?
We had switched to Epogen SC about 15 years ago and followed our patients H&H's for about 6 months. we did not see any great results and the patient's complained about the injections, so we switched back.
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