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Sep 30, 2009 09:54 AM

Was I taught the wrong thing in school?

by qaqueen

As a recent grad and new med/surg nurse, I realize that there is a difference in textbook and real world nursing.

However, one of the things that my instructors drilled into our heads was the "sick day protocol" for diabetics. "Take your insulin, monitor blood glucose more frequently."

The source of my confusion is I had a pt with blood glucose of 309 at hs check. On the sliding scale prescribed, the pt would have gotten 3 units of Novolog (at home the pt would have take a lot more). Because the pt was NPO, my preceptor instructed me to hold the insulin. This pt was in pain, very stressed and had an infection, was going for a procedure in the morning. Seems like a perfect combo to raise the blood glucose to me.

So here is the question, do you hold the insulin or give it when your pt is short term NPO? Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you


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No. 1
from JaneyW
Old Sep 30, 2009, 10:21 AM

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Did you call the MD to let him/her know about the result, pt's status and that the insulin was held?
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No. 2
from qaqueen
Old Sep 30, 2009, 10:28 AM

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Nope, I just did what the preceptor told me to do.

It isnt that I cant think for myself, but I guarantee you that thinking for yourself is NOT encouraged for new grads in this department.
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No. 3
from JaneyW
Old Sep 30, 2009, 11:10 AM

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That's a tough situation to be in. Especially because soon they will wonder why you can't think for yourself even after they have discouraged it. I just think that maybe that situation may have needed some collaboration with the physician and not stopped at nursing judgment alone. You can always frame it that you need the experience of calling the MD. I have to say, though, that I am not a diabetes expert. I would love to hear from others on this.
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from morte
Old Sep 30, 2009, 01:59 PM

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I think your preceptor needs to brush up.....and the doc needed to be called.....no expert here...but i would have given the coverage, a standing dose of routine evening insulin==i might hold...depending when the NPO status was instituted.....no matter what, if the doc didnt address these concerns in adm. orders he/she needed to be called....
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No. 5
from qaqueen
Old Sep 30, 2009, 05:46 PM

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Thank you both! I see the point, doc knew the pt was NPO and didnt indicate to hold coverage so he should have made the call. Thank you again.
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from dansingrn
Old Oct 01, 2009, 07:59 AM

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Standard sick day management is to treat the hyperglycemia, adding even more insulin if ketones are present (even if NPO, even if vomiting!). Definitely needs insulin in presence of infection, so clarification with the provider is indicated here.
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Old Oct 02, 2009, 04:28 PM

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common problem at my facility where policy is NOT to give rapid acting HS. What people do not remember is that you then have to do SOMETHING ELSE. Like call the MD. If not on a basal insulin that needs to be added to regimen. But first things first. Get BS down.
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No. 8
from qaqueen
Old Oct 03, 2009, 11:55 AM

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Thank you all again. I appreciate the info and will follow with the doc in the future. You all rock!
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from KendiKay
Old Oct 03, 2009, 12:08 PM

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Another point of view.......If blood sugar was over 300 at hs, wouldn't he/she not be eating anyway since is it hs? I would have gone ahead and given it (if I didn't have a preceptor breathing down my neck) and then checked bs in 3-4 hrs to see if it was therapeutic. Since you had a preceptor, it is expected that they know more d/t experience etc. Sorry that you had to do that. You will be a great nurse because you knew it wasn't right. Good luck in future!
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