Autism, mercury and cover up???

*mercyteapot* · Jul 17, 2005, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by rpggyr

That is a very interesting question. Why is it that every study that the CDC, and NIH have done has been hopelessly flawed. There is another interesting thought. The fact that 1 in out of 166 have autism is another question. The argument is why don't all children who have received vaccines with thimerisol become autistic. Some say its genetic. I don't buy that. They have all forgotten the fact that 1 out of every 6 kids have some form of neurological disability if you add in the ADD/ADHDs, all the milder learning disbilitys the numbers are staggering. My feeling is if they kept adding vaccines to the schedule that contained thimerisol more and more would have been effected. To me its a question of where each individuals toxic tipping point is. If you add enough poison at some point everyone would have been effected. The reason why they have not done the studies is because they already know its the thimerisol. They are not about to admit that their sacred cow damaged a generation of children. If you ask me the minute they added up the mercury and found the amounts these infants where getting they should have pulled all the vaccines with thimerisol off the shelf. The fact that they did not do is is criminal. Who said Mengala was dead. They should be in jail. I have reached the point were I don't believe a thing the CDC, FDA, IOM, NIH, WHO, ETC, ETC says. They are corrupt as hell.

Peggy

Well, rpg, as I'm sure you know, the CDC, et al concern themselves with public health, not the health of individuals. They are looking at the potential dangers of parents deciding not to vaccinate their children en masse, and the epidemics that would likely result. In reality, there is middle ground. Taking titers before vaccinating. Breaking up the vaccine schedule. Withholding vaccinations from children who seem to have a genetic vulnerability ("genetics are the gun and vaccines are the trigger"). The problem, of course, is that all these measures are expensive, and anything that adds to the cost lowers vaccination rates. I have been reading about and listening to the so-called "experts" telling us for years: "Well, if mercury is the cause, then you should see autism rates dropping off after we eliminate thimerosal from vaccines". Well, now we're seeing it. And not hearing too much from those mouthpieces, That makes sense, what are they going to say, "oops, turns out you all had a point after all"? The government hasn't wanted to consider the possibility that vaccines have done this to children because they're afraid of the claims that will be filed under the Vaccine Injury Program (despite the best efforts of Bill Frist to get rid of that possibility). Pediatricians haven't wanted to face the possibility, because they've spent years telling parents, in good faith, that their children should be vaccinated. The upcoming months and years are going to be an interesting time in autism research and advocacy.

rpggyr · Jul 17, 2005, 09:29 PM

They have gone way to far with these vaccines. If you read on the CDC's website the reason they recommended the chickenpox vaccine was for monitary reasons. Keeping parents at work. 6 mos before they made the recommendation for infants to receive the Hep B they were bragging about how low the rate was in the US. Their reason for recommending it for infants was because they could not get the high risk population to take it. So lets vaccinate all the newborns. I am 53 years old. I don't recall ever having an ear infection in my life. Everyone smoked non filter cigarettes but kids didn't have asthma, or upper respiratory infections like they do now. We are slowly being chemically poisoned. Its in our air, our food, our clothes. its everywhere. Most of our medical research is being funded by pharmaceuticals. They gained control of our media through advertisement dollars, they control our government with campaign dollars, now they are after the vitamins and alternative therapies because it is cutting into their profits. We have been brainwashed into thinking there is a pill for everything. I am sick of going to my doctor and getting 10 minutes of his time and walking out with a pill to treat my symtom. We all need to smarten up.

Peggy

Originally Posted by mercyteapot

Well, rpg, as I'm sure you know, the CDC, et al concern themselves with public health, not the health of individuals. They are looking at the potential dangers of parents deciding not to vaccinate their children en masse, and the epidemics that would likely result. In reality, there is middle ground. Taking titers before vaccinating. Breaking up the vaccine schedule. Withholding vaccinations from children who seem to have a genetic vulnerability ("genetics are the gun and vaccines are the trigger"). The problem, of course, is that all these measures are expensive, and anything that adds to the cost lowers vaccination rates. I have been reading about and listening to the so-called "experts" telling us for years: "Well, if mercury is the cause, then you should see autism rates dropping off after we eliminate thimerosal from vaccines". Well, now we're seeing it. And not hearing too much from those mouthpieces, That makes sense, what are they going to say, "oops, turns out you all had a point after all"? The government hasn't wanted to consider the possibility that vaccines have done this to children because they're afraid of the claims that will be filed under the Vaccine Injury Program (despite the best efforts of Bill Frist to get rid of that possibility). Pediatricians haven't wanted to face the possibility, because they've spent years telling parents, in good faith, that their children should be vaccinated. The upcoming months and years are going to be an interesting time in autism research and advocacy.

rpggyr · Jul 17, 2005, 09:44 PM

There are studies, and they are clinical, not epidemiological studies. The reason you have not heard about them is they are being done by independent researchers that have not been funded by the CDC, or NIH, or any other Government run agency. I think you will find the testimonies of some of the scientists that testified at the Feb 2004 IOM heatring very interesting.
Peggy

http://www.iom.edu/subpage.asp?id=18065

Originally Posted by fergus51

This is why I was asking if there were any new studies out showing a link. We often discuss immunization with the parents on our unit and I don't want to be giving them outdated information. Immunization is a particularly important issue for our premies.

*mercyteapot* · Jul 17, 2005, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by rpggyr

There are studies, and they are clinical, not epidemiological studies. The reason you have not heard about them is they are being done by independent researchers that have not been funded by the CDC, or NIH, or any other Government run agency. I think you will find the testimonies of some of the scientists that testified at the Feb 2004 IOM heatring very interesting.
Peggy

http://www.iom.edu/subpage.asp?id=18065

Right. And even the CDC has only said that the government's studies "favor rejection of mercury as a causal agent of autism"- NOT that it has been proven that mercury doesn't cause autism.

The Age of Autism: Mercury ascending

By DAN OLMSTED
http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-20050517-13562100-bc-us-ageofautism-iom.xml

WASHINGTON, May 17 (UPI) -- A year ago, the prestigious Institute of
Medicine slammed the door on the idea that mercury in vaccines bore
any relation to autism.

"The overwhelming evidence from several well-designed studies
indicates that childhood vaccines are not associated with autism,"
the chairman of the IOM panel, Harvard scientist Marie McCormick,
told reporters last May 18.

The panel went further: It took the unusual step of urging that
research money go instead to more "promising" areas. You can't slam a
door much harder than that.

But 12 months later, that door seems slightly ajar. One big doorstop
is the new 441-page book by David Kirby called "Evidence of Harm," a
compelling portrayal of parents and scientists who have pushed the
vaccines-autism theory. They contend that a mercury-based
preservative called thimerosal, in an increasing number of
vaccinations, triggered an autism epidemic in the 1990s.

Thimerosal was phased out of U.S. childhood vaccines beginning in
1999.

One memorable vignette in Kirby's book is a meeting between several
of those advocates and Dr. Julie Gerberding, who had been director of
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention less than two years.

Last May 12, a week before the IOM report, Gerberding flew in from
Atlanta to meet them -- at her request -- in the Rayburn House Office
Building on Capitol Hill. Rep. Dave Weldon, R-Fla., a medical doctor
who is a persistent critic of thimerosal and the CDC's handling of
the issue, also was present.

Taking turns, the parents and scientists methodically laid out their
case.

Mady Hornig of Columbia University described how mice with an
autoimmune genetic predisposition develop autistic-like behaviors
after being injected with thimerosal-containing vaccines.

"Hornig played the videos for Gerberding, who suddenly appeared
stunned," Kirby recounts in his book. "She brought her hands to her
face in disbelief.

"Dave Weldon had a similar reaction. He stopped Hornig in the middle
of her ghastly presentation. 'Wait a minute,' he said. 'Am I to
understand you correctly? You injected these mice with the same
amount of mercury, relatively speaking, that infants receive in
vaccines, and you saw these kinds of mutilatory behaviors? You saw
this mouse eat through the cranium of his cellmate?'

"'Yes,' she replied calmly."

The Institute of Medicine saw the same presentation before issuing
its report but rejected it as unconvincing.

Gerberding was polite but noncommital, Kirby writes. As she left,
she said, "I am not afraid of controversy, and I am determined to
follow the science."

Call it coincidence, but it's striking how much less dismissive of
thimerosal concerns the CDC is these days, compared with the
Institute of Medicine and others.

The National Network for Immunization Information, for instance,
launched a pre-emptive broadside against "Evidence of Harm." That
group represents the mainstream medical establishment, including the
American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Nurses Association and
the American Academy of Family Physicians. Their members, it should
be noted, were among those who administered the vaccines in question
on the recommendation of the CDC.

"Warning: Controversial vaccine book," the NNII statement was
headlined. "Reporter David Kirby has recently written a book ...
purporting that there is a link between thimerosal and autism and
other developmental disorders."

That's a bit of an overstatement, considering the first two
sentences of Kirby's book: "Does mercury in vaccines cause autism in
children? Anyone hoping to find proof that it does in the pages that
follow is advised to put this book down now."

The NNII asserted that "extensive evidence shows no link between
vaccines and neurodevelopmental disorders, including autism. This
evidence is based on well-established scientific studies.

"Continued attempts to link vaccines and autism run the risk of
diverting attention away from efforts to understand the cause or
causes of autism," the group said.

The CDC also issued a release on Kirby's book. Its thrust was
different -- that the book is a "look back" to a time when thimerosal
was in childhood vaccines.

"Given the historical nature of the book, it is important to
emphasize that today, with the exception of some flu vaccines, none
of the vaccines used in the U.S. to protect preschool children
against 12 infectious diseases contain thimerosal as a preservative.

"As the IOM concluded in a recent report, the vast majority of
studies, which have involved hundreds of thousands of children in a
number of countries, have failed to find any association between
exposure to thimerosal in vaccines and autism; that is, they have
failed to find any evidence of harm," the CDC said.

It's worth noting the contrasts in the statement. The doctors and
nurses group says "extensive evidence shows no link." Dr. McCormick
at the Institute of Medicine says "overwhelming evidence" shows no
link.

But the CDC, which unlike such groups has ongoing access to the
actual data, merely states that studies so far "have failed to find
any association."

"CDC continues to support research related to autism," the statement
said, "including studies designed to examine the possible causal
association between autism and other possible environmental causes,
including thimerosal-containing vaccines. ... Research in these areas
is ongoing."

Ongoing research that includes thimerosal as a possible cause of
autism? Supported by the CDC?

Put simply, the CDC isn't ruling out anything -- contrary to the
Institute of Medicine's declaration that more research on thimerosal
is a waste of money, contrary to the medical establishment's
pronouncement that continuing to look could cause harm.

Consider Gerberding's comments April 28, 2004, at a House
subcommittee hearing: "We don't have the evidence to show that the
thimerosal preservative is a risk, but you know we have an open mind
about that."

rpggyr · Jul 17, 2005, 10:19 PM

Wow, this was very informative. How convenient of the CDC to say in one breath GOVERNMENT STUDIES favor a rejection, not that is has been proven thimerisol does not casue autism. We have taken it out of the vaccines (thats a lie) so don't worry about it anymore. I think I'll just go out back and find a nice fox and ask him to guard my Chickens. LOL

Peggy

Originally Posted by mercyteapot

Right. And even the CDC has only said that the government's studies "favor rejection of mercury as a causal agent of autism"- NOT that it has been proven that mercury doesn't cause autism.

The Age of Autism: Mercury ascending

By DAN OLMSTED
http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-20050517-13562100-bc-us-ageofautism-iom.xml

WASHINGTON, May 17 (UPI) -- A year ago, the prestigious Institute of
Medicine slammed the door on the idea that mercury in vaccines bore
any relation to autism.

"The overwhelming evidence from several well-designed studies
indicates that childhood vaccines are not associated with autism,"
the chairman of the IOM panel, Harvard scientist Marie McCormick,
told reporters last May 18.

The panel went further: It took the unusual step of urging that
research money go instead to more "promising" areas. You can't slam a
door much harder than that.

But 12 months later, that door seems slightly ajar. One big doorstop
is the new 441-page book by David Kirby called "Evidence of Harm," a
compelling portrayal of parents and scientists who have pushed the
vaccines-autism theory. They contend that a mercury-based
preservative called thimerosal, in an increasing number of
vaccinations, triggered an autism epidemic in the 1990s.

Thimerosal was phased out of U.S. childhood vaccines beginning in
1999.

One memorable vignette in Kirby's book is a meeting between several
of those advocates and Dr. Julie Gerberding, who had been director of
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention less than two years.

Last May 12, a week before the IOM report, Gerberding flew in from
Atlanta to meet them -- at her request -- in the Rayburn House Office
Building on Capitol Hill. Rep. Dave Weldon, R-Fla., a medical doctor
who is a persistent critic of thimerosal and the CDC's handling of
the issue, also was present.

Taking turns, the parents and scientists methodically laid out their
case.

Mady Hornig of Columbia University described how mice with an
autoimmune genetic predisposition develop autistic-like behaviors
after being injected with thimerosal-containing vaccines.

"Hornig played the videos for Gerberding, who suddenly appeared
stunned," Kirby recounts in his book. "She brought her hands to her
face in disbelief.

"Dave Weldon had a similar reaction. He stopped Hornig in the middle
of her ghastly presentation. 'Wait a minute,' he said. 'Am I to
understand you correctly? You injected these mice with the same
amount of mercury, relatively speaking, that infants receive in
vaccines, and you saw these kinds of mutilatory behaviors? You saw
this mouse eat through the cranium of his cellmate?'

"'Yes,' she replied calmly."

The Institute of Medicine saw the same presentation before issuing
its report but rejected it as unconvincing.

Gerberding was polite but noncommital, Kirby writes. As she left,
she said, "I am not afraid of controversy, and I am determined to
follow the science."

Call it coincidence, but it's striking how much less dismissive of
thimerosal concerns the CDC is these days, compared with the
Institute of Medicine and others.

The National Network for Immunization Information, for instance,
launched a pre-emptive broadside against "Evidence of Harm." That
group represents the mainstream medical establishment, including the
American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Nurses Association and
the American Academy of Family Physicians. Their members, it should
be noted, were among those who administered the vaccines in question
on the recommendation of the CDC.

"Warning: Controversial vaccine book," the NNII statement was
headlined. "Reporter David Kirby has recently written a book ...
purporting that there is a link between thimerosal and autism and
other developmental disorders."

That's a bit of an overstatement, considering the first two
sentences of Kirby's book: "Does mercury in vaccines cause autism in
children? Anyone hoping to find proof that it does in the pages that
follow is advised to put this book down now."

The NNII asserted that "extensive evidence shows no link between
vaccines and neurodevelopmental disorders, including autism. This
evidence is based on well-established scientific studies.

"Continued attempts to link vaccines and autism run the risk of
diverting attention away from efforts to understand the cause or
causes of autism," the group said.

The CDC also issued a release on Kirby's book. Its thrust was
different -- that the book is a "look back" to a time when thimerosal
was in childhood vaccines.

"Given the historical nature of the book, it is important to
emphasize that today, with the exception of some flu vaccines, none
of the vaccines used in the U.S. to protect preschool children
against 12 infectious diseases contain thimerosal as a preservative.

"As the IOM concluded in a recent report, the vast majority of
studies, which have involved hundreds of thousands of children in a
number of countries, have failed to find any association between
exposure to thimerosal in vaccines and autism; that is, they have
failed to find any evidence of harm," the CDC said.

It's worth noting the contrasts in the statement. The doctors and
nurses group says "extensive evidence shows no link." Dr. McCormick
at the Institute of Medicine says "overwhelming evidence" shows no
link.

But the CDC, which unlike such groups has ongoing access to the
actual data, merely states that studies so far "have failed to find
any association."

"CDC continues to support research related to autism," the statement
said, "including studies designed to examine the possible causal
association between autism and other possible environmental causes,
including thimerosal-containing vaccines. ... Research in these areas
is ongoing."

Ongoing research that includes thimerosal as a possible cause of
autism? Supported by the CDC?

Put simply, the CDC isn't ruling out anything -- contrary to the
Institute of Medicine's declaration that more research on thimerosal
is a waste of money, contrary to the medical establishment's
pronouncement that continuing to look could cause harm.

Consider Gerberding's comments April 28, 2004, at a House
subcommittee hearing: "We don't have the evidence to show that the
thimerosal preservative is a risk, but you know we have an open mind
about that."

nckdl · Jul 17, 2005, 10:39 PM

I feel, and i know that many of you will disagree with me, and that's ok, because it's my opinion, but I think many of media and doctors need to not blow this ordeal out of porportion due to the fact that many young parents will think to themselves " hmmm I just won't vaccinate my child from the horrible disease just in case all this is true". Just like my sister was contemplating on doing with my nephew and i told her to check it out first. So what does she do? She looks on the internet with all these rumors that scared her even more. And yes she can ask for the non mercury vaccine but is her insurance going to cover it? What about all those poor young single moms on medicaid, are they going to cover it? I remember when all this came in the news when my daughter was around the age to recieve the mmr vaccine and yes i was scared and wanted to not give them to her. I just hope that the public will not jump to conclusions until all the information is out there. I'm sorry for all the parents out there with autism children and i hope they do find a reason, just like i hope they find a reason for sids too.

barbara44 · Jul 17, 2005, 11:08 PM

this is an interesting thread.

we know that children who were administered the shots on schedule suffered mercury exposures 87 times the government safety standards. autism has gone from 1 in 10,000 in the 80's to 1 in 166 in 2005. to say it's purely genetic is ridiculous. there's no such thing as a genetic epidemic. and the increase is not due to better diagnosis. ask any special ed teacher who's been teaching for at least 10 years. they will tell you they've seen a huge increase in children w/adhd, learning disabilities, speech delays,autism and aspergers (1 in 6 children) mercury is known to cause these problems. some children simply cannot excrete mercury properly. i hear the same story over and over again. the child was developing normally, meeting all his milestones, then around a year and a half, the child gets vaccinated and gets a high fever, becomes listless and screams for hours. a few days later, the child stops talking, loses eye contact, is always sick, etc. i guess it's just another "coincidence."

i had to laugh when i heard that they were removing mercury from the vaccines to make "a safe vaccine even safer." if it's already safe, then why did they remove the mercury? well, they almost removed the mercury. it's still in the flu and tetanus shots. and the others still contain a trace of mercury. i talked to a woman who recently took her 15 month old in to get vaccinated. she asked to see the insert of the hib vaccine. it still contained the full amount of mercury. so always check the inserts.

it's strange how china and africa had a very low incidence of autism, that is until the U.S. recently started shipping vaccines with the full amount of mercury in them. now in China, where autism was virtually unknown prior to the introduction of thimerosal by U.S. drug manufacturers in 1999, news reports indicate that there are now more than 1.8 million autistics.

Autism Explodes in Africa - Group Holds Seminar

http://allafrica.com/stories/200506300250.html

re the denmark study on autism;
http://www.taap.info/DanishStudy2005.pdf

i encourage everyone to read Fouad Yazbak's Speech online.

like it or not, the media is starting to cover this issue. here's a cbs news video on autism/thimerosal:

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_vi...nel=eveningnew

here's the extended (10 minute)interview w/kennedy:

look to the column on the right under multimedia, second one down.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005...ain709269.shtml

here's a video of mercury destroying neurons;

http://commons.ucalgary.ca/mercury/

if doctors think thimerosal is safe, then i suggest they take the following offer;
http://www.avn.org.au/News/us-offer.html

In a 1991 memo, Dr. Maurice Hilleman, one of the fathers of Merck's vaccination programs, warned his bosses that 6-month-old children administered the shots on schedule would suffer mercury exposures 87 times the government safety standards. He recommended that Thimerosal be discontinued and complained that the US Food and Drug Administration, which has a notoriously close relationship with the pharmaceutical industry, could not be counted on to take appropriate action as its European counterparts had. Merck ignored Hilleman's warning, and for eight years government officials added seven more shots for children containing Thimerosal.

In 2000, the CDC met with pharmaceutical companies and the FDA in secret to review its findings linking Thimerosal with the dramatic rise in neurological illnesses. According to transcripts, participants were alarmed about the undeniable links between the Thimerosal and widespread brain damage in children. Dr. Bill Weil told the group, ''You can play with [the results] all you want. They are statistically significant." Dr. Richard Johnston admitted he feared his grandchild getting a Thimerosal-containing vaccine. But the group was most concerned with keeping the findings secret. ''Consider this embargoed information," said Dr. Roger Bernier, a senior director at the National Immunization Program, at the meeting's close. The CDC now says it has ''lost" the data that supported the crucial study and has persistently defied congressional requests and federal law requiring it to open up the federal Vaccine Safety Database to scientists and the public.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/edi..._and_politics/

if we don't want to see vaccination rates decline, then this issue must be addressed.

*mercyteapot* · Jul 17, 2005, 11:37 PM

It is interesting, too, that back when Kanner identified autism, the Amish had one of the highest rates among the demographic groups that were studied. The theory then was that intramarriage may have been responsible for this increased incidence. Now, we keep hearing how the Amish have one of the lowest incidences. Their rate hasn't actually changed. Nor, by and large, has their way of life. Those of us in secular society, where we have exposed ourselves and our children to more and more environmental insults, including a radically accelerated vaccine schedule, find ourselves with a rate of autism many times that of the group that used to be considered "heavily" affected.

rpggyr · Jul 18, 2005, 08:56 AM

First of all. These are not rumors. There are over 1500 studies that prove mercury in any form is neurotoxic. Autism is a horrible disease. You speak of SIDs. Lets look at SIDS. it showed up just around the time the DPT came on the scene. Many parents have sued VICA and won who's child died of SIDs after DPT. My own son 37 years ago went to his 2 month check up got his first DPT screamed for five hours and then stopped breathing. Do you know what they told me in the ER. He was a near miss SIDS. They refused to blame the vaccine he got twenty minutes before his little brain began to swell. I remember it like it was yesterday. His pediatrician actually wanted to give him another. I do believe had I not refused he would not be here today. He would have been listed as SIDS. Who is it that makes the decison that a childs death from a vaccine is more acceptable than a child that dies from a disease the vaccine was supposed to prevent. Do we weaken the strong to protect the weak. I for one am not willing to sacrafice my child or myself. I am not affraid of these disease's I had them all as a child and recovered just fine. The only cases of polio in this country since the seventies is caused by the vaccine. The real truth about our whole vaccine program is available if someone wants to know. We msut all stop buying into the propaganda and start doing our own research. Many porple who have bothered to research have found that the CDC loves to scue statistics. especially if they want to promote a new vaccine. All the thousands of people who supposedly died from the flu every year. Someone actually got into thier data base and counted the deaths from the flu. If I recall it was somewhere in the 200's. The CDC has known for years that the flu is a very mild disease in healthy children. Now they want them to get vaccinated for it. Somehow every single death from the flu in children was being plastered all over the media to scare parents. They failed to mention that those childen that died had other serious medical issues that put them at risk for complications. It is not the disease's parents are affraid of if they don't vaccinate. It is the lies, and coverups by the government agencies that refuse to tell the truth, Its the studies they won't do to protect the children who are at a higher risk for adverse reactions from the vaccines. No one has any accountability. The pharmaceuticals withhold information on dangerous drugs that are on the market (Vioxx) and these agenices are literally getting away with murder. The studies that claim these drugs are safe are fudged. It is not just vaccines that have problems. Its our whole medical system.

Peggy

Originally Posted by nckdl

I feel, and i know that many of you will disagree with me, and that's ok, because it's my opinion, but I think many of media and doctors need to not blow this ordeal out of porportion due to the fact that many young parents will think to themselves " hmmm I just won't vaccinate my child from the horrible disease just in case all this is true". Just like my sister was contemplating on doing with my nephew and I told her to check it out first. So what does she do? She looks on the internet with all these rumors that scared her even more. And yes she can ask for the non mercury vaccine but is her insurance going to cover it? What about all those poor young single moms on medicaid, are they going to cover it? I remember when all this came in the news when my daughter was around the age to recieve the mmr vaccine and yes i was scared and wanted to not give them to her. I just hope that the public will not jump to conclusions until all the information is out there. I'm sorry for all the parents out there with autism children and i hope they do find a reason, just like i hope they find a reason for sids too.

*mercyteapot* · Jul 18, 2005, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by nckdl

I feel, and i know that many of you will disagree with me, and that's ok, because it's my opinion, but I think many of media and doctors need to not blow this ordeal out of porportion due to the fact that many young parents will think to themselves " hmmm I just won't vaccinate my child from the horrible disease just in case all this is true". Just like my sister was contemplating on doing with my nephew and i told her to check it out first. So what does she do? She looks on the internet with all these rumors that scared her even more. And yes she can ask for the non mercury vaccine but is her insurance going to cover it? What about all those poor young single moms on medicaid, are they going to cover it? I remember when all this came in the news when my daughter was around the age to recieve the mmr vaccine and yes i was scared and wanted to not give them to her. I just hope that the public will not jump to conclusions until all the information is out there. I'm sorry for all the parents out there with autism children and i hope they do find a reason, just like i hope they find a reason for sids too.

There is no such thing as an "autism child". There are children with autism, but they are children first. We as nurses need to understand that and refer to children in respectful language. And yes, Medicaid does pay for vaccines that don't have mercury in them (or aren't supposed to, anyway). We really don't need your pity, we love our children. How patronizing of you.

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