Small children visiting patients in the critical care setting... thoughts?? - page 7

I'm wondering what other nurses and even nurses who are parents think about this topic. I haven't been to this forum in a while. But this has really been on my mind and need some opinions. I work... Read More

  1. Visit  uRNmyway profile page
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    While I completely get the 'no visitors under the age of 12' rule, I definitely think there should be done flexibility in extreme circumstances. One story comes to mind that absolutely broke the hearts of all the nurses on our mother-baby floor.
    Back in the H1N1 crisis, we had a young (like 23) pregnant woman come in for emergency c-section. She had had pneumonia during her pregnancy and then H1N1 kinda piggy backed into that. She was emergently intubated during her c-section, and well, basically, they never managed to extubate. She would desaturate with the lightest touch.
    We had her baby in our well baby nursery for around 2 months. He was such a wonderful baby. He was perfectly healthy, miraculously. But daddy, being Muslim, had absolutely no clue how to care for a child without the help of a woman. Not to mention he was completely devastated and overwhelmed that his wife would likely never wake up. He was in ICU every day to see her.
    Once we found out she wouldn't wake up, we tried everything we could to get the baby in to see her, so she could get to touch her baby at least once before she died. Even in a coma, we still thought she would know and it might help her have some kind of peace. We also wanted daddy to have one picture of his wife and baby together, to be able to show his son when he grew up. We said we would arrange to have her draped, baby in isolation gear, whatever we needed to do. They never allowed it. She died without ever once touching her precious little boy. Daddy looked so darn broken when they chose to withdraw life support and he and his in-laws took baby home. I don't get why they couldn't make an exception for this. Heartbreaking...
  2. Visit  Ruby Vee profile page
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    Quote from uRNmyway
    While I completely get the 'no visitors under the age of 12' rule, I definitely think there should be done flexibility in extreme circumstances. One story comes to mind that absolutely broke the hearts of all the nurses on our mother-baby floor.
    Back in the H1N1 crisis, we had a young (like 23) pregnant woman come in for emergency c-section. She had had pneumonia during her pregnancy and then H1N1 kinda piggy backed into that. She was emergently intubated during her c-section, and well, basically, they never managed to extubate. She would desaturate with the lightest touch.
    We had her baby in our well baby nursery for around 2 months. He was such a wonderful baby. He was perfectly healthy, miraculously. But daddy, being Muslim, had absolutely no clue how to care for a child without the help of a woman. Not to mention he was completely devastated and overwhelmed that his wife would likely never wake up. He was in ICU every day to see her.
    Once we found out she wouldn't wake up, we tried everything we could to get the baby in to see her, so she could get to touch her baby at least once before she died. Even in a coma, we still thought she would know and it might help her have some kind of peace. We also wanted daddy to have one picture of his wife and baby together, to be able to show his son when he grew up. We said we would arrange to have her draped, baby in isolation gear, whatever we needed to do. They never allowed it. She died without ever once touching her precious little boy. Daddy looked so darn broken when they chose to withdraw life support and he and his in-laws took baby home. I don't get why they couldn't make an exception for this. Heartbreaking...
    Perhaps the concern was the health and safety of the healthy child?
  3. Visit  uRNmyway profile page
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    I know what you are saying, but we offered to put sterile drape over the mommy, basically gown and mask a newborn, just long enough for her to touch her baby, daddy to take a picture, and go. And she was on a vent. I haven't been around those all that much, but I just don't see how pathogens can get around a whole lot from that. Anyways...Just found it really sad for the whole family. Can't help but think it might have brought some peace to this woman before she died...
  4. Visit  NicuGal profile page
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    That is sad But I am sure that the visitation guidelines has nothing to do with it, it comes from ID. We get a few moms per year that are in ICU and we are not allowed to take the baby in, especially if they are still in house. Now if the baby had been home with the dad ( and I find it incredible any insurance paid for the baby to stay for 2 months) they may have let it happen as the baby would not have a chance of exposing the nursery to H1N1.
  5. Visit  uRNmyway profile page
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    Well this is in Canada, there is no fight with insurance to pay for it. And if I remember correctly, by then she had been cleared of H1N1. Unfortunately, the damage to get system had already been done. I do get not wanting to expose healthy babies to any ICU infections, but if precautions are maintained, wouldn't that make it ok? If going in these patient rooms is safe for us when we gown, mask and glove, shouldn't the same rule apply for a newborn who won't be touching anything anyways?
  6. Visit  Esme12 profile page
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    Quote from uRNmyway
    Well this is in Canada, there is no fight with insurance to pay for it. And if I remember correctly, by then she had been cleared of H1N1. Unfortunately, the damage to get system had already been done. I do get not wanting to expose healthy babies to any ICU infections, but if precautions are maintained, wouldn't that make it ok? If going in these patient rooms is safe for us when we gown, mask and glove, shouldn't the same rule apply for a newborn who won't be touching anything anyways?
    That is a heart breaking story.....Sometimes as nurses we make difficult decisions....I ma not sure that even I the softie of the world would have allowed the newborn near the Mom....for fear of a double tragedy. Newborn immune systems are NOT capable of "fighting" off infections they are vulnerable.

    I know as a Mom...if I was dying from an infectious disease.......the last thing I would allow are my children to be put at risk. I once didn't allow a mother to see her incinerated son from a motorcycle accident.....he was like charred wood and ashes his fingers disintegrated in your hands...it was horrible....I made some lame excuse about the coroner...the rest of the staff agree but I was the "bad guy" I never regretted my decision....while that mother HATED me for quite a while (it was a friend of the family of a friend) she did finally forgive me.
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  7. Visit  NurseQT profile page
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    I know this post is months old now but I thought I'd add my experiences from the other side... The family side of it. I agree that there should be age restrictions when visiting patients on critical units, but with some "wiggle room". My feeling is that parents may not always understand how visiting a critically ill loved one may effect a child. My older brother recently passed away while in the ICU. He was on a vent, ECMO, and CCRT and was sedated the entire time he was there. My kids (ages 7, 9, 12, and 14) had asked about going to visit him and I wouldn't allow it. I think it would've been really scary for them to see their uncle in that state and as it turned out it would have been the last memories they had of him. I'm glad their last memories are of their uncle healthy and being the goofy guy he was. I'm not aware of there being any age restriction for that particular CVICU but when my 15 yr old niece came to see him they were not going to allow her in the room because she didn't get a flu shot this year. My sister in law was adamant that my niece be allowed in the room and the nursing staff did finally allow it, which was a good thing because my brother passed away the next day. My niece was allowed in the room after the ECMO and vent were disconnected too. It would have been more devastating for her if she wouldn't have been able to be in the room with the rest of us as we said good bye.
    Another experience I had was when I was a patient on the maternity ward. I was awoken in the middle of the night by a woman screaming, scared the crap outta me! The screaming all of a sudden got louder as the door to her room was opened and then I could hear a child crying, and I mean this child was wailing and it was obvious this child was terrified! I could hear her/him crying as they were taken down the hall and presumably off the unit. I understand that mom and dad thought it would be great to have the kid there for the birth of their new baby brother or sister but it was the middle of the night and all they managed to do was scare the crap out of their child!

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