Where are the real prisons located?

tazpint · Jan 30, 2004, 06:18 AM

Real Prisons

I have worked in a minimum secruity prison in Missouri. They are not too bad. I think in their max prisons is even better,but you work for a contracted company called CMS.Thier pay scale is low and no retirement. I worked the 3rd shift and did not put up with any bogus emergencies. I evaluated them,documented what my assessmnet was and if it was bogus,sent them back to their cells with a medical services request slip which they are required to fill out and go through that process if it is not a real emergency.This was the safest environment I have ever worked in. I enjoyed the experience.

Blackcat99 · Feb 01, 2004, 05:03 AM

Thanks everyone

I'm so happy that I was actually able to log in this time. 99% of the time when I try to log in it doesn't work. Thanks everyone for your replies. Please be advised that if I don't reply it's not because I'm trying to be rude it's just that 99% of the time I can't. log on. So I want to say thanks now to everyone while I can. I can always read your messages. Oklahoma and Missouri sound great! I rarely have problems with inmates. I don't know why but it seems that inmates try to cause problems for the loving and kind nurses. You would think they would treat them better but they didn't at the 2 prisons I worked at. I love working in corrections-it's exciting! I get along great with 90% of the inmates. I just get tired of the 10% that are always "whining" all the time.
Anyway,I love to hear everyone's opinion even if I don't agree.
So far, it looks like there are real prisons in Texas, Oklahoma, and Missouri. Any other states?

tazpint · Feb 01, 2004, 08:49 AM

Hi blackcat,the reason the loving and kind nurses have trouble are they have not earned the respect of the inmates.You have to be fair,firm, and consistant with them and then the staff and the inmates will respect you. I have more problems with the officers atempting to play doctor and try to diagnosis inmates and then send them down to me. I had one inmate who came down at 1am with a headache and when I explained to him this was not a medical emergency and he should put in a medical request slip for otc apap he said," ..but the officer said I might have an anuerysm." Of course I called that officer and explained,I really doubted he had a medical degree and even if he did he wasn't hired to practice medicine here. I was sooo mad!

Blackcat99 · Feb 03, 2004, 11:16 PM

Hi Tazpint
You are so right about nurses having to earn the respect of the inmates. I can sure understand about the officers trying to play doctor. At my old job an officer would call and tell me that an inmate was having chest pain. When the inmate would arrive I would ask him about his chest pain. The inmate would say no I don't have chest pain. I have a headache.
One night the CO's called me every 30 minutes all night long to tell me to send a specific inmate to the emergency room. The director of nurses had told me that this inmate was not to go to the ER
for his back pain under any circumstances. I told the CO's what the DON said and they still called me every 30 minutes!!!!Of course, the next day the inmate had a "miraculous recovery"

tazpint · Feb 07, 2004, 11:01 PM

I HEARD THAT.

Jailhouse RN · Apr 29, 2004, 02:53 PM

It is not the place of the DOC nurse to punish any inmate regardless of crime or sentence. Inmates are not to be abused at any time. It takes a very sick nurse to abuse another human being for personal gratification. Force is to be used only when necessary. I use a firm, business-like demeanor whenever I have contact with any inmate. You do not have to like inmates to do a good job caring for them. The care given inmates also protects other staff. The motto for NYSDOCS is "CARE, CUSTODY AND CONTROL". Just a final FYI, for those who don't know; "Abuse of an inmate is a crime punishable by prison time in a state facility."

vwgirl · Apr 30, 2004, 04:09 AM

They keep coming back because....

Originally Posted by Blackcat99

Hi psych rn-I got into correctional nursing many years ago when nurses were being laid off due to low census. I wanted job security. How about you?

Hi Aurora. No I don't want to be a correctional officer. I am just tired of these inmates constantly "whining". I am tired of their constant lawsuits against nurses etc. I hear the inmates constantly complaining about how awful it is to be in prison. If prison is so awful why do these inmates keep coming back to prison after they are released? I am also tired of losing good nurses who get burned out with these inmates writing them up over every little thing. I am also amazed when I see young nurses flirting with inmates.
Joe Arpaio is my hero. He is not insane. And talking about heroes
I know our brave men and women heroes in the military are sometimes required to live in tents. However, when our spoiled rapists and child molesters are forced to live in tents people think it is so cruel and inhumane.

Thank you both for your messages

...once you have a criminal record you can kiss your chance of being employable goodbye, at least in any decent type of job paying a livable wage. It does not suprise me that so many inmates continue commiting crimes. And if you think everyone in prison actually deserves to be there, remember that our lovely judicial system is far from perfect, and that you or someone you love, could easily wind up there some day. It does happen.

Blackcat99 · Apr 30, 2004, 06:48 AM

Thanks for your messages. Yes it is difficult for ex-inmates to get jobs. Our judicial system is far from perfect. I did hear great news about one of my ex-inmates. When he was in prison he helped teenagers by going to the high schools and telling them about his life. After he got out of prison he got 3 jobs and is doing great and is staying out of trouble. :hatparty:

Koonie · May 01, 2004, 01:33 AM

Hi All,

I'm currently a CO in a max facility in MN, and I'm in nursing school. After being a CO there is no way I could be a decent nurse at my prison. I don't think I could deliver a high level of patient care after dealing with the inmates as a CO. In my prison the nurses are treated well, decent pay, fairly well respected by those they interact with, but that goes on an individual basis. I just wanted to say THANKS to all the excellent corrections nurses out there. Everyone deserves excellent health care and your dedication is appreciated.

Blackcat99 · May 01, 2004, 06:21 PM

Hi Koonie. I bet you would be an excellent correctional nurse. Your CO experience would help you greatly in dealing with inmates.

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