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No. 40
from henryswife
Old Feb 01, 2009, 01:39 AM

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Do you recommend new LPNS with no experience start off working in a correctional setting?
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No. 41
from DonaldJ
Old Feb 01, 2009, 02:22 PM

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Do you recommend new LPNS with no experience start off working in a correctional setting?
Absolutely not. A new nurse will need to develop decent assessment skills, be comfortable enough with pt contacts to not show fear/anxiety, and develop a good BS-meter before dealing with this type of population.
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No. 42
Old Feb 10, 2009, 10:55 AM

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I would like to work in a prison once i get my Lpn. So tell me how does it work. like what does the LPN do?
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No. 43
Old Feb 10, 2009, 07:21 PM

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When I did my RN pre-grad 120hrs, I asked to go to the prison. Prison Nursing was an area of interest for me, that was sparked when I worked as a mental health tech in forensic psych. School was an invaluable way to experience this field without locking myself into something I was unsure of. You may want to see if you can do this while you are still in school. I took a float position as a new grad RN, but I had a little seasoning before hand. Good luck
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No. 44
from CheyRN
Old Feb 11, 2009, 09:11 AM

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I would like to work in a prison once i get my Lpn. So tell me how does it work. like what does the LPN do?
NO!!! The pace and amount of knowledge required is not good for ANY brand new nurse, not even if you have your BSN. I agree with the other poster saying that your assessment skillls have to be above top notch, but with that your BS meter has to be in overdrive at all times. The inmates have nothing better to do all day than to figure out ways to manipulate the system and you are what stands between them and the drugs that they want.
You also have to be very comfortable in being able to say "NO" and mean it. In school they teach you that you are to do everything to make the patient comfortable and attend to their needs, but in a prison they are always inmates first and patients second. Security takes center stage over everything else. If you are presented with a medical emergency, the area has to be secured before medical can take action. A lot of nurses I have known have a big problem with that, but it is for the safety of all involved.
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No. 45
from MaritesaRN
Old Feb 11, 2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CheyRN View Post
NO!!! The pace and amount of knowledge required is not good for ANY brand new nurse, not even if you have your BSN. I agree with the other poster saying that your assessment skillls have to be above top notch, but with that your BS meter has to be in overdrive at all times. The inmates have nothing better to do all day than to figure out ways to manipulate the system and you are what stands between them and the drugs that they want.
You also have to be very comfortable in being able to say "NO" and mean it. In school they teach you that you are to do everything to make the patient comfortable and attend to their needs, but in a prison they are always inmates first and patients second. Security takes center stage over everything else. If you are presented with a medical emergency, the area has to be secured before medical can take action. A lot of nurses I have known have a big problem with that, but it is for the safety of all involved.


Wow....above is the best advice about the prison specialty. Well said and well covered from my view. I was a pysch nurse myself , and still I wonder if the prison mentality is the place for me. I have always refused assignments to drug rehab section because of the constant manipulation of the patients, of which is their 2nd nature, really. I preferred the real psych patients ( lock up unit), because there is really no intentional manipulation and they are more predictable. I was wondering if this is a population that I can really work with?
Any feed back anyone?
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No. 46
from deyo321
Old Feb 14, 2009, 06:50 AM

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If you don't want to deal with manipulative behaviours stay where you are.
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No. 47
from MaritesaRN
Old Feb 16, 2009, 11:18 AM

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If you don't want to deal with manipulative behaviours stay where you are.

Excuse me I had been in these manipulative population ( lock up Psych adn drug rehab) !
I am talking specifically to prison nurses.....your specialty list does not show this, so I am not interested in your smart as... comment. Your specialty above showed that you have no experience in this either.....so if you have nothing to say productive , do not even comment or say something just to be nasty.
I am sure that manipulation is everywhere w/ varying degrees...maybe that is why I prefer a position that is less manipulation , per se by patients and staff. I expected this from a pysch unit and drug rehab, since this is their coping mechanism, but not acceptable from any other field or area.... so time is devoted to "straight work" instead of the mind game. One should know the "pschological requirements" before entering a position, to see it it is something acceptable or even tolerable to that persons personality.
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No. 48
from deyo321
Old Feb 16, 2009, 01:47 PM

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Oh no you didn't.

Maritesa you indicated that you had refused to work drug rehab because of manipulative behaviours.

I answered you very straightforward.

As to my profile, when I see my name it has corrections listed under nursing specialty. Perhaps you do not see that?

Also I would like to point out that you thanked me for a response on Dec 1 2008 in IM harrassment/co's doing nothing. Twice.

I have no idea how a straight forward answer with no emoticons or even incendiary punctuation got you so angry.
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No. 49
from MaritesaRN
Old Feb 16, 2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by deyo321 View Post
Oh no you didn't.

Maritesa you indicated that you had refused to work drug rehab because of manipulative behaviours.

I answered you very straightforward.

As to my profile, when I see my name it has corrections listed under nursing specialty. Perhaps you do not see that?

Also I would like to point out that you thanked me for a response on Dec 1 2008 in IM harrassment/co's doing nothing. Twice.

I have no idea how a straight forward answer with no emoticons or even incendiary punctuation got you so angry.

I appreciate the response. first I apologize that i did not see your correctional experience. 2nd , this current response is more of a slap away ( the tone of your answer....) than an answer really...of course we can argue about this all day............. one has to be able to choose a specialty that she can stomach.....in my case I have worked a big majority of my nursing carreer in a psych environ ( and I am burned out from this type of population) , and if you have worked in this speciaty, it is an all day manipulation process by the patients, not to mention the real physical danger. Naturally , I do not want to work in that area anymore, and I was trying to fished out if the extent of manipulations by the prisoners, and how the corrections is dealing w/ this and what is the black and white rule. just how much do you allow this manipulation behavior and how is the staff dealing w/ this? I am sure there is staff splitting of which can be very dangerous, and you know there are some staff gullible enough to get suck into this , and it spells trouble....for that department or facility.
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