Ohhhh JOBS.. where are you???? - page 4

Am I the only one having trouble getting a response from a prospective places of employment? :uhoh21: Are there job freezes everywhere? Is this just an "odd" time to graduate? Are new graduate nurses (RN) even considered... Read More

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    Be careful with the whole deal of contacting the nurse manager directly. I did this at one place, and the NM was annoyed. I'm sort of glad I did it anyway, b/c I could sense the impatience in her tone--not to be judgmental at all--sure she could have been having a bad day--but the tone was one of real annoyance--probably about me overstepping the HR process. BTW, the HR people will often get annoyed too. Gee, I can remember the days when mangers and recruiters were thrilled to get nurses' calls. Well, at least for now, those days are over.

    Hospitals don't want to admit the have what are comparatively speaking, essentially hiring freezes going on. No one will say it. Yes some jobs will be open--but not there used to be. And they don't want to pay for the ads--well that has been so for a while now. Years ago, it was like there was no limit to the ads for nurses.

    Another thing, HR people do not want to launch when and where the career fairs are until the last second practically--and some of that is directed at the seniors and new-grads-to-be college campuses. That's fresh and cheaper blood, so to speak.

    It's kind of amazing what's going on anymore. But it is silly to think the economic crisis is not affecting hospitals and healthcare org's. It is and will continue to do so.

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    "I'm tired of clincal nurse educators who don't educate, but walk around in white lab coats and when you ask them a question their response 's it will come with time.' "

    Amen. Some clinical nurse educators seem like they are doing just the minimum. So many unit educators take no time with those new to the unit. They really should. If the NPs can take the time to teach and observe, etc, so can those hired specifically for that purpose.

    Hospitals and units should start evaluating their nurse ed's more closely. Some are worth their weight in gold--others do their specialty classes--and spend a lot of the time carrying subjective BS to staff and NM's rather than actually being true nurse educators. This is pet peeve of mine.
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    I so agree, hospitals should do evaluations of their clinical nurse specialist. Just because some one has a MSN, doesn't mean they can teach. It is like being in college and having a professor who is a Ph.D, and can't teach his students, to the point out of a class of 30 students maybe 5 pass and the rest fail, and management thinks it must be the students. NO it is the professor!!!!!

    I think some nurses become clinical nurse educators because they don't want to do bedside nursing anymore. Funny how that is where learning how to care for a patient takes place, is at the bedside. In any field that you work, you have to have common sense and book sense and use the two together. At my previous employer I was surprised by the nurse educators who were teaching us about the computer system. when I asked questions about documenting and they didn't know the answer I just got the response " oh you can ask someone on your unit." But yet people who are not using the system, are the ones teaching it to people who will be. Once again what is wrong with this picture. Then there are the ones who are assigned to be on the unit. They are usually the ones who have a certification in something, but also has many other roles under their belt. when I was working there was time when I had to do a dressing change and the nurse educator wanted to cme look at it too, because ahe was the wound care specialist. shockingly I started to do the dressing change and her beeper goes off after a overhead page of a cardiac arrest. She just looked at me and said I gotta go. amazingly enough she had time to pat me on the back with her wound gloved hands. oh, the patinet was on MRSA precaution, and we all know how the isolation gowns only cover the front side of the health care provider.

    All i could do is think to myself WOW!!!!!!!!! and I'll so be changing my scrub top once i'm done with this wound dressing.
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    what makes a hospital a teaching hospital? A lot of hospitals say they are teaching hospitals due to nursing and medical schools have students going there for clinical rotations and what have you. But yet it doesn't seem like a teaching hospital when it comes to educating the staff that works there, i.e. new graduate nurses, or nurses with less than 3 -6months experience.

    I really think that nursing orientations should really be evaluated by the state's board of nursing. I'm sorry a 6- 8wk orientation doesn't sit right with me, especially when you have preceptors and clinical educators who don't educate a person. Not every one learns the same and at the same time. Nursing isn't aust a job where you can hire someone and say go do the job. There is so much that has be taken into consideration. The key to working in a hospital is learning how to do things the way how the hospitals policies and procedures states. I mean every hospital has different policies and procedures for doing things. I think this is one of the biggest hurdles a new nurse has to face, especially if working in a place where one didn't do clinicals in.
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    Scary how this post was started back in Dec'08 and here it is May'09 and i'm still asking myself the same question "OHHH JOBS.. WHERE ARE YOU???????? It truly is heartbreaking when I file each week for unemployment and I have to answer the question to the effect of "have i enrolled in school or training?" Gee I thought getting my degree in nursing and passing my boards was enough, but clearly it is not since i don't have the "magic 1yr experience" under my belt to find a job. Once again how does one get this expereince if no one is hiring new or inexpereinced nurses at this time. It get even worst, when applying for a job and HR asks what have you been doing since your last employer? Really now, is this the type of question HR is posing now when the economy is in the current state that it is in. Trying to find a job in itself is a full-time job.

    I guess it is just me, but I'm approaching the end of my rope when it comes to getting up everyday to job hunt. The reality is what it is.
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    Hi -- Last week I was poking around online, looking at available jobs in the Yale-New Haven system. I noticed that they were looking for nurse externs at Bridgeport Hospital. Have you considered doing that? I don't know if they pay, but it sounds like a great way to get experience and to fill in any holes in your work history. Perhaps you can even still collect unemployment as an extern...?
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    Quote from KeepingItRealEeyore
    Scary how this post was started back in Dec'08 and here it is May'09 and i'm still asking myself the same question "OHHH JOBS.. WHERE ARE YOU???????? It truly is heartbreaking when I file each week for unemployment and I have to answer the question to the effect of "have i enrolled in school or training?" Gee I thought getting my degree in nursing and passing my boards was enough, but clearly it is not since i don't have the "magic 1yr experience" under my belt to find a job. Once again how does one get this expereince if no one is hiring new or inexpereinced nurses at this time. It get even worst, when applying for a job and HR asks what have you been doing since your last employer? Really now, is this the type of question HR is posing now when the economy is in the current state that it is in. Trying to find a job in itself is a full-time job.

    I guess it is just me, but I'm approaching the end of my rope when it comes to getting up everyday to job hunt. The reality is what it is.

    I am so sorry to hear that you still havent found a job. What county of Connecticut do you live in that it has became this difficult for you to find a job. I mean ANY job.. have you tried everything possible.. I think a Nursing Home would be a better try for you initially , since you are a new grad. You can build your foundation where it is more stable, chronic, long term care, and get your one year experience on your belt. Then you can move on to a hospital. This way you can build your confidence in the nursing home and not be considedered a "new grad" when entering a hospital job. You know how in nursing school, we were taught any time you change jobs you are a novice, so once you go into a hospital, they will put you on orientation again, so dont worry that you will forget your skills in a nursing home. Just go for it, try to find a job at a nursing home. If not there, then try a doctor's office. Go to monster.com and apply to all the jobs. Atleast start some per diem job, or something like that. I mean LOOK EVERYWHERE rather than only hospitals. Hope I helped.
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    I am having a really hard time finding a job as well. I am a new LPN that has been applying in person to a bunch of different nursing homes in CT. All I can do is fill out the application, I don't even have the chance to interview with anyone. No one will even call me back. I was not in the medical profession before so I am thinking that this may have something to do with it. Will I be able to renew my license if I don't get any experience??
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    Hi orange57,

    I'm sorry this is so late! Busy bee lately. I got a job at Charlotte Hungerford Hospital in Torrington. I absolutely LOVE it there. It is a truly caring and friendly environment. No "eating the young" going on there.. and I'm not just saying that... it's true!

    I'm on their telemetry unit and am loving it.! It's busy busy, but that's one of the reasons I love it so much. I can't sit still.. I like to look up at the clock and be like.. WHOA, it's 2:00 already???!!!

    I can only say good things about this hospital!! I'm very happy w/my new career.

    Thank you everyone for the congrat's! It has been a long time coming.. the job hunt was very difficult but the wait sure paid off.

    Good luck to you all!! Don't give up your search!! Go to as many Open Houses as you can... and network network network!

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