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No. 50
Old May 26, 2009, 09:43 PM

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While there are times that a nice, juicy swear word comes in handy---and I admit, there are a couple that I've been known to toss in to end an argument!---I think that in general, being unable (or unwilling) to express oneself without using profanity denotes intellectual laziness.

Sometimes, though, frequent cussing is just a mark of immaturity. Case in point: my oldest daughter, who used to be PROUD of her potty mouth, has now learned how to make her points without lacing her speech with obscene terms that would've made her grandmother blush. She now has young children, and suddenly we're hearing things like "Sorry about Eli, he's being a real beep-n-snap" and "That just about scared the ess out of me!" But then, she's grown up a little and doesn't like the way those words sound coming out of the precious mouths of her babies.
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No. 51
Old May 26, 2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by VivaLasViejas View Post
While there are times that a nice, juicy swear word comes in handy---and I admit, there are a couple that I've been known to toss in to end an argument!---I think that in general, being unable (or unwilling) to express oneself without using profanity denotes intellectual laziness.

Sometimes, though, frequent cussing is just a mark of immaturity. Case in point: my oldest daughter, who used to be PROUD of her potty mouth, has now learned how to make her points without lacing her speech with obscene terms that would've made her grandmother blush. She now has young children, and suddenly we're hearing things like "Sorry about Eli, he's being a real beep-n-snap" and "That just about scared the ess out of me!" But then, she's grown up a little and doesn't like the way those words sound coming out of the precious mouths of her babies.
some of my favorites are...what the french, shizzle and sugar honey iced tea (use the 1st letter of each word)
i've cut back alot since i was younger.
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No. 52
Old May 26, 2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nursemike View Post
Oh, and, it's harder to spread apple butter.
Oh not all Mike, not all...
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No. 53
Old May 26, 2009, 10:14 PM

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My granny taught me to say "sugar foot" . . . .

We had a CNA who cussed up a storm and her fav word was the "F" word ... peppered in between just about every other word. She was an awesome CNA - except for her language. Trying to get her to understand that it was not professional to speak like that, especially around patients, was hard.

steph
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No. 54
from 2BSure
Old May 26, 2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Spidey's mom View Post
My granny taught me to say "sugar foot" . . . .

We had a CNA who cussed up a storm and her fav word was the "F" word ... peppered in between just about every other word. She was an awesome CNA - except for her language. Trying to get her to understand that it was not professional to speak like that, especially around patients, was hard.

steph
And you kept her on? I would have let her go regardless of her technical skills. We had a nurse that used to do that AND run around saying "I need tequila" all the time. It wasn't funny.
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No. 55
from nursemike
Old May 26, 2009, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sunray12 View Post
This is the internet. We all have the capability to read and participate in a broad cross section of boards about a myriad of topics. It's unrealistic to assume that nurses would be the only ones who read or post on this board. I've looked at boards for professions that I am not in just out of general interest and I'm sure I'm not the only one. If you want a nurses only section, that's your prerogative. But I can't imagine anyone wanting to tie their internet discourse to their professional license. IMO that is highly unadvisable - but that's just me.

I've had a diverse career path to date and when reading this board, I do see common ground. Sometimes I post about it.

And for what it's worth that retail manager may have useful advice for the floor nurse who comes here beating his/her head against the wall because of something her manager or a patient says. Retail managers may not stick tubes in people for a living but they do deal with problem customers and district managers who may or may not have a clue - so they have an idea what it's like. And remember there are certain things being an employee of a corporation or other big institution is the same whether you're a nurse or in any other profession. Believe it or not, minus the body fluids and the invasive procedures, there is common ground.

Being so narrow minded that you want to believe that something that happens everyday across a broad section of humanity is happening to you and only you just because you're a nurse can't be helpful. Isolationism is not conducive to success in today's world and that applies no matter what profession you're in or what license you hold. I see rn's here who can't even imagine that a cna or a lpn could possibly know what they do. Now if that's not narrow focus I don't know what is. Open your mind and broaden your outlook and you'll probably be able to come here and post happy things instead of coming here only to vent about being a nurse (which can't feel good).

I'm not a nurse and that is my opinion.
Heh, heh. I was at a restaurant, not long ago, and it was pretty busy. After a rather lengthy wait, the waitress brought my order, minus fries, and said, "I'm so sorry, I had your order on the counter, ready to go, and when I turned to get your drink, someone must have grabbed my fries. I'll bring some out as soon as they're ready."

Fine, no problem, heck, they're not that good for me, anyway, but then I said, "I'll bet it can get a little cutthroat, back there, when it's busy like this."

And she said, "Honey, you have no idea, working with all these women..."

I laughed until it hurt. Not saying my female peers are cutthroat, mind you, but you do hear stories. Um, well, I've always thought nurses, and pretty much everyone, should have to do a stint working the drive-thru window, once in their lives, if only in the theory that "if you swallow a live frog, first thing every morning, nothing worse will happen to you the rest of the day." I also apply lessons I learned as a carpenter to my work as a nurse, and not just "measure twice, cut once."

So count me among those who believe we can learn something from people in all walks of life. For sure, I would hate to exclude anyone in healthcare. I joined as a student, myself, and the inspiration and lessons I found here were priceless. I have given students the old "wait till you graduate" line, but only because it's true. And while I like, respect, and listen to the aides I work with, I've been amazed more times than I can count how very much they truly don't know what we do. Nor did I, nor even understand that I didn't know, because I didn't know.
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No. 56
from nursemike
Old May 26, 2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by llg View Post
I'll add another, related point ...

I've noticed lately that a lot of the students -- and even people just taking pre-reqs "hoping" to go to nursing school these days -- and expressing strong opinions without identifying their lack of familiarity with the issues. They give the impression that they are nurses when if fact, they have never worked as a nurse or even as a nursing assistant.

The trend concerns me because people who read their posts don't know that these people have no experience in nursing -- or even in health care. They mistakenly believe that these posters know what they are talking about.

I WELCOME students here and nursing assistants, etc. I belive they can and should be welcome in any thread. However, when they are giving advice to nurses and other students, they should identify their level of experience with the subject matter. Perhaps the "years of experience" listed under our names should say, "years of nursing experience." Or there could be categories that a person would have to check off as they register (RN, LPN, nursing student, pre-req student, other, etc.) Yes, some people would lie. But most would probably tell the truth.

llg
Would there be a box to check for dufus? And could we check multiple boxes, as applicable? Like "RN" and "dufus?" I don't know--I think it might just be sensory overload--but lately I've been feeling like I forgot to refill my Arricept. (I'm not saying people who take Arricept are dufuses--dufi? I'm just saying...uh, what was I saying?")
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No. 57
Old May 26, 2009, 11:22 PM
Updated May 27, 2009 at 11:14 AM by I love my cat!

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Well, I remember a certain 'maintenance' man that joined AllNurse, to basically berate and complain about Nurses. He acted like a child and basically implied that Nurses have nothing to do at work except make his poor life miserable. Waaaaaaaaa.....
Truly unbelievable.
He was so condescending and ignominious that I refused to visit the thread for fear that I might post something demeaning against maintenance and then I would be banned, lol. No, not really, but.........
-I could have been equally churlish, brusque and disparaging about his chosen occupation, but I didn't.
-I could have pointed out all the mistakes and errors that I have seen 'stupid' employees in the 'maintenance dept. do, but I didn't. (He called Nurses or a Nurse 'stupid' if I remember correctly)
-I could have told him how to do his job better, but I didn't.

The ignore button is a beautiful feature, BTW.
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No. 58
from eriksoln
Old May 27, 2009, 08:36 AM
Updated May 27, 2009 at 08:53 AM by eriksoln

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Originally Posted by ImMrBill3 View Post
That sounds an awful lot like me!!!
I got points for everybody, brought some people grades up even. And got explanations for things I was misunderstanding or had things stated correctly that were mistaken.
But I'll take odd for a poke, my skin is a little thicker than that.
I thought critical thinking was a positive quality in nurses, guess one should just take the info given without question, oh wait we are responsible for checking to see if orders are appropriate and safe...

If you were actually winning the debates to the point where points were rewarded, I highly doubt you fit the mold of the type of student I am talking about. I'm more more annoyed with (er, was anyway), with the ones who insist on creating debate simply to hear themselves talk. No one gives these types any mind. Your instructors were obviously listening to what you had to say, hence they believed there was a valid point being made and considered rewarding points.

Originally Posted by multicollinearity View Post
Eriksoln,

Is it possible you are bent out of shape about something else, not this board?

Oh, multicollinearity, you dont know me at all, and you are in my friends list too. "Bent out of shape" is my baseline. If you truly care about me.........heed these words: If you EVER see me in here being lovey dovey and flower childish about stuff..........making posts that sound like something those beauty pagent girls say when answering questions...........CALL THE POLICE AND SEND THEM TO MY HOUSE. There are only two things that could explain this:
1. Someone has taken me hostage in my own home. I am beaten to within an inch on my life and cant stop them from making posts using my account.
2. I close to OD'ing on.............some sort of happy pill..........and will be dead within an hour.

Originally Posted by sharpeimom View Post
I'm not trying to ruffle feathers or incite a riot, but OP's idea that this forum should be for nurses only puts me in a quandary... As you will notice, if you take the time to read my information will learn, I hold degrees (BSN and MSN) in nursing as well as a BA in creative writing but currently hold no valid nursing license nor will I .... ever again. It was not taken from me. Instead, I had a CVA caused by small vessel disease that effectively ended my nursing career .... irrevocably and forever. I was left handed, swam, exercised daily, walked three miles per day, traveled frequently, played with our dog and cats, enjoyed playing games, was co-creator of a cartoon character, tutored students at the college where my husband teaches, was a literacy tutor, sat on the YWCA board, the homeless shelter board, was very active in our church, just to share a few things about me. The stoke affected my memory to a small degree only, most of which has come back and allnurses has enabled the now stay-at-home non-driving me a new bunch of friends, for which I am grateful. Now I'm reminded yet again, that I don't quite belong or fit in to a club I was an active member of for years! I may type two fingered now, can't drive, have my loving husband do simple ordinary things for me as I relearn who I am now, but, ya know what, OP? I'm STILL a nurse deep down in my soul and always will be. My husband came up with a new job description for me. It's in French, but translates to, "Keeper of the hearth and mama to the zoo." You know what? I'll take it and wear it's mantle proudly.

sharpeimom + mama to five cats
I'll follow that with some wisdom I got from my instructors in school:
"Dont be cocky after having practiced a couple years in the field. We will see the progress we have made and feel like we have "got it". You will be amazed at how much further down the road we can travel if we dont let arrogance get in our way. Dont consider yourself a nurse until you have practiced for at least five years."

Thats why, being a few months short of four years experience, I still refer to myself as "a new nurse".

You obviously paid your dues and it will take me doubling both my efforts and my skills to last as long as you have in this field. You have no reason to be concerned with whether I or anyone else in here considers you their equal. If anything, I should be working to gain that credential from you.

You are every bit a nurse and I welcome any input you wish to give me in any thread.
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No. 59
from eriksoln
Old May 27, 2009, 08:53 AM

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Now, on with the debate.

To answer all the "oh, but everyone has something to say, cant we all love one another, we are all in the same world, everyone has something to offer" blah blah. Where is my kidney shaped dish, I am going to lose my lunch. Too late, you all owe me a new carpet.

You know, the idea of "circling the wagons" or "isolating yourself" as you call it is not unique nor wicked.

Lawyers, pilots, doctors, accountants, retail store managers................they all do it. And guess what........they are the one's people consider "professionals" not "overpaid uneducated labor" as many like to refer to us as.

Cant tell you how many clubs I could not join because I AM NOT A LAWYER.

I can point out at least three incidents in the last couple years where I was at a ballgame and...........guess what?...............an entire section is taken up by the managers of some major retail chain. I cant sit there..........I'm not one of them.

There are more than a few training camps (which are a vacation according to the people I know who have been there) I cant go to because I dont run an accounting firm.

There committees my voice will never be heard in at work (that directly affect my work place and its philosophies) because I am not a doctor.

See, these professions know when to turn off the idealistic care bear movie mentality and protect their own. They have the public's respect. But, for some reason, we as nurses are expect to be "humane" and leave the door open at all times.

Is saying I wish for our little corner of the internet world to remain............clean of posters who dont have nursing as their highest priority really all that satanic as you make it?

NO
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