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No. 20
from 2ndwind
Old May 26, 2009, 02:56 PM

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I agree, sometimes you do just want to let it all hang out. The site should always contain students tho... don't really know what it would be without the mentoring that goes on here. But then seeing it from another perspective, it is always entertaining when most of us jump on the unsuspecting visitor (not a nurse or student nurse) who wanders into our lair to tell us what's what.

But I am for your efforts.

Can you put in the new TOS, that swearing is allowed? Some of us just cannot express our thoughts in earnest without dropping the F bomb (my favorite, or insert your words of choice), what ever they may be

Thank you.
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No. 21
from eriksoln
Old May 26, 2009, 03:04 PM

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Oh for the record, I definitely consider CNA's a part of our group. I'd rather have CNAs around and put up with the other riff raff than have CNAs gone along with the riff raff.

Students too.

I'm talking about the retail store manager who insists their job is exactly like nursing. Or the Bus driver who says they have more stress. Or the part time administrator who thinks they can teach us something about compassion.
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No. 22
Old May 26, 2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 2ndwind View Post
I agree, sometimes you do just want to let it all hang out. The site should always contain students tho... don't really know what it would be without the mentoring that goes on here. But then seeing it from another perspective, it is always entertaining when most of us jump on the unsuspecting visitor (not a nurse or student nurse) who wanders into our lair to tell us what's what.

But I am for your efforts.

Can you put in the new TOS, that swearing is allowed? Some of us just cannot express our thoughts in earnest without dropping the F bomb (my favorite, or insert your words of choice), what ever they may be

Thank you.
HAHA! That cracks me up, "jump on an unsuspecting visitor (not a nurse or student nurse) who wanders into our lair to tell us what's what."

I'm a student, but don't worry, I'll keep my mouth shut!

How does that saying go?
"It's better to keep silent and let them think your stupid than to open your mouth and confirm it" Haha
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No. 23
Old May 26, 2009, 03:10 PM

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Amen Eriksoln! I sometimes choose to not carry a conversation with my non-nursing student friends simply because they think that their job and schooling is more stressful than mine. I'm sorry but you not understanding your assignment for your web design class won't kill somebody like me not grasping the latest chapter for dosage calculations! Hello!
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No. 24
from llg
Old May 26, 2009, 03:37 PM

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I'll add another, related point ...

I've noticed lately that a lot of the students -- and even people just taking pre-reqs "hoping" to go to nursing school these days -- and expressing strong opinions without identifying their lack of familiarity with the issues. They give the impression that they are nurses when if fact, they have never worked as a nurse or even as a nursing assistant.

The trend concerns me because people who read their posts don't know that these people have no experience in nursing -- or even in health care. They mistakenly believe that these posters know what they are talking about.

I WELCOME students here and nursing assistants, etc. I belive they can and should be welcome in any thread. However, when they are giving advice to nurses and other students, they should identify their level of experience with the subject matter. Perhaps the "years of experience" listed under our names should say, "years of nursing experience." Or there could be categories that a person would have to check off as they register (RN, LPN, nursing student, pre-req student, other, etc.) Yes, some people would lie. But most would probably tell the truth.

llg
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No. 25
from truern
Old May 26, 2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by llg View Post
I'll add another, related point ...

I've noticed lately that a lot of the students -- and even people just taking pre-reqs "hoping" to go to nursing school these days -- and expressing strong opinions without identifying their lack of familiarity with the issues. They give the impression that they are nurses when if fact, they have never worked as a nurse or even as a nursing assistant.

The trend concerns me because people who read their posts don't know that these people have no experience in nursing -- or even in health care. They mistakenly believe that these posters know what they are talking about.

I WELCOME students here and nursing assistants, etc. I belive they can and should be welcome in any thread. However, when they are giving advice to nurses and other students, they should identify their level of experience with the subject matter. Perhaps the "years of experience" listed under our names should say, "years of nursing experience." Or there could be categories that a person would have to check off as they register (RN, LPN, nursing student, pre-req student, other, etc.) Yes, some people would lie. But most would probably tell the truth.

llg
Interesting....I experienced that very thing just this week with a poster who is NOT a nurse but listed something like 20 years of experience.

Eriksoln, personally I like your suggestion. I'm also tired of posters who don't have a clue trying to give their when they don't have two pennies to rub together.
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No. 26
Old May 26, 2009, 03:58 PM

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I hope I havent rubbed anyone wrong like that. I have my experience posted with my name and I think in just about every post (no matter what the topic, lol) I've gushed about starting the LPN program, finally, this fall. I dont appreciate it when other students put off that "all knowing image" especially those that, in class, try to interrupt and challenge the instructor's lecture. Wouldn't be surprized if those are some of the same kiddos on here tryin to tell you guys whats to do!
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No. 27
from eriksoln
Old May 26, 2009, 04:16 PM

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Oh my, the people who aregued with test questions for points and challenged the lecture got under my skin too. Very odd bunch they tend to be.
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No. 28
from sunray12
Old May 26, 2009, 04:43 PM

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This is the internet. We all have the capability to read and participate in a broad cross section of boards about a myriad of topics. It's unrealistic to assume that nurses would be the only ones who read or post on this board. I've looked at boards for professions that I am not in just out of general interest and I'm sure I'm not the only one. If you want a nurses only section, that's your prerogative. But I can't imagine anyone wanting to tie their internet discourse to their professional license. IMO that is highly unadvisable - but that's just me.

I've had a diverse career path to date and when reading this board, I do see common ground. Sometimes I post about it.

And for what it's worth that retail manager may have useful advice for the floor nurse who comes here beating his/her head against the wall because of something her manager or a patient says. Retail managers may not stick tubes in people for a living but they do deal with problem customers and district managers who may or may not have a clue - so they have an idea what it's like. And remember there are certain things being an employee of a corporation or other big institution is the same whether you're a nurse or in any other profession. Believe it or not, minus the body fluids and the invasive procedures, there is common ground.

Being so narrow minded that you want to believe that something that happens everyday across a broad section of humanity is happening to you and only you just because you're a nurse can't be helpful. Isolationism is not conducive to success in today's world and that applies no matter what profession you're in or what license you hold. I see rn's here who can't even imagine that a cna or a lpn could possibly know what they do. Now if that's not narrow focus I don't know what is. Open your mind and broaden your outlook and you'll probably be able to come here and post happy things instead of coming here only to vent about being a nurse (which can't feel good).

I'm not a nurse and that is my opinion.
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No. 29
from 2BSure
Old May 26, 2009, 04:47 PM
Updated May 26, 2009 at 04:54 PM by sirI

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Originally Posted by 2ndwind View Post
I agree, sometimes you do just want to let it all hang out. The site should always contain students tho... don't really know what it would be without the mentoring that goes on here. But then seeing it from another perspective, it is always entertaining when most of us jump on the unsuspecting visitor (not a nurse or student nurse) who wanders into our lair to tell us what's what.

But I am for your efforts.

Can you put in the new TOS, that swearing is allowed? Some of us just cannot express our thoughts in earnest without dropping the F bomb (my favorite, or insert your words of choice), what ever they may be

Thank you.
I know what you mean, it is has been like learning a different language. Maybe I just swear too much? I didn't even consider "********" a bad word and it got starred out on a post. I laughed my arse off!
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