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Nov 04, 2005 10:36 AM

Do you work for Nurse CEO?????


I am interested in hearing from anyone who works for a hospital who has a nurse CEO. Children's hospital in Denver has a nurse CEO, and the facility was recently named a magnet hospital. Has the perspective of a nurse CEO made a difference for you? What are the staffing ratios like? The salaries, etc. Please share any info. Thanx, smarty.


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from Axis2RN
Old Feb 07, 2006, 08:51 AM

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I have worked for Children's Hospital in Denver (TCH). My advice is to stay far away from that place. The mentality they (read The CEO) have towards nurses is incredible. The mentality is, and this IS one of their famous sayings "a nurse is a nurse is a nurse." In other words, they are perfectly ok with floating a nurse to any area in the hospital, after all you are trained to handle it by virture of your license The other mentality they have is that they own you and you have no rights. You'll find this one out if you ever have a employee/employer problem at Children's. I was also told that they were involved in attempting to get nursing licenses restricted to just their facility. Needelss to say this did not pass in Colorado legislature, but they were involved.
Basically they treat their employees like dirt and make sound like they are doing you a favor. Don't believe me? Ask any attorney in this area and they will tell you. Ya, they have that reputation too.
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Old Feb 09, 2006, 04:10 PM

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Hey Axis,
I am not familiar TCH but very interested in your comment "I was also told that they were involved in attempting to get nursing licenses restricted to just their facility." Can you explain that for me, please? Cause I can't imagine any nurse ever wanting to work for them EVER if what I am thinking is true!
Jeesh!
Thanks,
WG
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Old Feb 16, 2006, 11:58 AM

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Nurse CEO's scare me. They are usually highly degreed (not that this is a bad thing) but have little recent or very remote bedside care experience. The previous statement that a "nurse is a nurse" mentality rings true with many high level nursing administrators, CEO or not.

The objective with any CEO is to staff the hospital, bring in more patients and secure an adequate profit to maintain their jobs.

In nursing, this is dangerous. We all know a Nurse is NOT a Nurse in various settings. If we were, why would there be specialty units? Specialty Certifications? Peds vs Adult units? The list is endless. We cannot fall victim to the bottom line. Nurses are there first to protect patients. We took an oath to that. However, it is also our responsibility to ensure that a facility stays profitable if we want to maintain our own level of security.

I have worked with many CEO's directly and the ones that are the most effective do NOT have nursing backgrounds. Nursing CEO's still have the notion that there is not a nursing job in the institution that the CEO cannot do and do it better. Yet they are far removed from the acuities of the patients, the updated pathways, the pressures from the families, physicians and other staff, yet alone the sheer pace at which patients come and go.
There are good CEO's. They are the ones that rely on their managers and administrators to keep the patients safe, retain staff and make day to day management decisions based on education and ability in order to complete the hospitals daily operations.

Sorry I got on my soap box. Been there, done that
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