can't believe what they are doing ..

*~Mi Vida Loca~* · Mar 08, 2009, 06:05 PM

Having a 4.0 GPA does not mean you will be the best nurse. It means you have good grades, their is a lot more to nursing than a GPA.

ThePrestige · Mar 08, 2009, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Jackie100779

Having a 4.0 GPA does not mean you will be the best nurse. It means you have good grades, their is a lot more to nursing than a GPA.

I understand, but if you cant get top notch grades in the easy pre-req classes then you probably wont do well in nursing school, you can always be a CNA, the world needs ditch diggers to.

*~Mi Vida Loca~* · Mar 08, 2009, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by ThePrestige

I understand, but if you cant get top notch grades in the easy pre-req classes then you probably wont do well in nursing school, you can always be a CNA, the world needs ditch diggers to.

That's not true at all, I have met very good nurses that got B's and C's in school. I have met many straight A nurses that had the personality of a rock and shouldn't have been dealing with live patients. Just because something is easy for you doesn't mean it is for everyone else. everyone is an individual and if they manage to make it through nursing school and pass the NCLEX exam they must not be to stupid. Some people have the subjects they breeze through and ones they struggle with more and don't make A's in. It's a pretty big assumption to make that unless you make top notch grades you won't make it or be good at it.

ThePrestige · Mar 08, 2009, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by Jackie100779

That's not true at all, I have met very good nurses that got B's and C's in school. I have met many straight A nurses that had the personality of a rock and shouldn't have been dealing with live patients. Just because something is easy for you doesn't mean it is for everyone else. everyone is an individual and if they manage to make it through nursing school and pass the NCLEX exam they must not be to stupid. Some people have the subjects they breeze through and ones they struggle with more and don't make A's in. It's a pretty big assumption to make that unless you make top notch grades you won't make it or be good at it.

I hear what you are saying, but nursing is a very important part of healthcare and only letting top students in is a good decision, why dont medical schools let in 2.2 GPA students? There is a reason, because those with a 3.6 GPA do better, only 30% of those who apply to med school get in, and now its going to be the same way for nursing, good choice colorado state board of nursing.

*~Mi Vida Loca~* · Mar 08, 2009, 06:46 PM

You know, if you were talking about C-,D students I could agree more. Part of nursing is personality and part is book smarts. So if you are below average on the book smarts part than that can obviously be a big problem. If you are below average on the personality part, it might not cause a problem when it comes to you maybe giving a medical dosage but it can be a problem in the kind of care that person is receiving on an emotional level when they are already at a high level stress time as it is.

I got C's (2.6 and 2.7) in my A and P classes in WA, here in CO those would be 2.0's because they have a different grading system here. I struggled with those classes for a factor of reasons, I did well in English (ironically since my grammar skills are below par and some spelling) 4.0's in Psych and Sociology, I got a B in Micro, (within 10 points of an A) and so far have a 126% in my 3 credit nutrition class and a B in Patho. Here in CO like I said, there is only 4.0, 3.0 and 2.0. So all together since I don't have my Patho and Nutrition done yet my Cumulative GPA would not be very high. It was enough to get into the Nursing Program, which I start in August, here they require a 2.5 GPA to get in which would be a C, but I have no doubt I will do well in Nursing School and be a wonderful nurse, I would even bet a large sum of money that I even become a better nurse than some of those 4.0 student.

There are many factors that go into being a good nurse, and while I will agree that the grades one can achieve will be a part of it, but not near all of it. There are many factors. I would support a 3.0 Min. to be put on the waitlist, maybe, but I think the 2.5 is good or even maybe a 2.8 so you would have to have basically a C+ average in that case.

*~Mi Vida Loca~* · Mar 08, 2009, 06:48 PM

Oh and as far as medical students, the High GPA is good sure, but I think that also might be why so many Doctors are so damn cold and impersonal. (not all but majority of the ones I have ever met) they have such crappy personalities. Given the nature of their job, I rather them lack a personality and be really good at what they do, but that is why we have nurses, to give that more personal touch among other things.

ThePrestige · Mar 08, 2009, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Jackie100779

You know, if you were talking about C-,D students I could agree more. Part of nursing is personality and part is book smarts. So if you are below average on the book smarts part than that can obviously be a big problem. If you are below average on the personality part, it might not cause a problem when it comes to you maybe giving a medical dosage but it can be a problem in the kind of care that person is receiving on an emotional level when they are already at a high level stress time as it is.

I got C's (2.6 and 2.7) in my A and P classes in WA, here in CO those would be 2.0's because they have a different grading system here. I struggled with those classes for a factor of reasons, I did well in English (ironically since my grammar skills are below par and some spelling) 4.0's in Psych and Sociology, I got a B in Micro, (within 10 points of an A) and so far have a 126% in my 3 credit nutrition class and a B in Patho. Here in CO like I said, there is only 4.0, 3.0 and 2.0. So all together since I don't have my Patho and Nutrition done yet my Cumulative GPA would not be very high. It was enough to get into the Nursing Program, which I start in August, here they require a 2.5 GPA to get in which would be a C, but I have no doubt I will do well in Nursing School and be a wonderful nurse, I would even bet a large sum of money that I even become a better nurse than some of those 4.0 student.

There are many factors that go into being a good nurse, and while I will agree that the grades one can achieve will be a part of it, but not near all of it. There are many factors. I would support a 3.0 Min. to be put on the waitlist, maybe, but I think the 2.5 is good or even maybe a 2.8 so you would have to have basically a C+ average in that case.

Ok well before you can actually answer that, you need to start nursing school....im already an RN, big difference

*~Mi Vida Loca~* · Mar 08, 2009, 07:22 PM

Big difference in what?? Whether a average grade person can be a good nurse??? I don't need to be in school or done with NS to know that, I have personally met many of them and been cared for by them.

I know there is a % of dropouts each semester, my school has the statistics posted in the nursing handbook that you can look at online. It doesn't how many of those students have a High GPA though, I have a family member that was always a 4.0 student since grade school and in College. She dropped out of NS after one year because she said although the grades were easy for her, she realizes it was not the job for her. So I don't have to be a nurse yet to know that some high GPA students make crappy nurses and some medicore students make good nurses, hell George Bush Jr was a C student and he was elected president and half the country seems to think he was a wonderful president :| I will spare my own opinions on that though and it has nothing to actually do with what his GPA was LOL

*Asia53* · Mar 08, 2009, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by Jackie100779

Big difference in what?? Whether a average grade person can be a good nurse??? I don't need to be in school or done with NS to know that, I have personally met many of them and been cared for by them.

No, Jackie, that's not what Prestige means. You start Nursing School--I promise you, after your first clinical rotation---you'll understand exactly what Prestige is saying.

You're about to enter a world that makes absolutely no sense, plays by its own rules, and the rules change without notice.

The very best of luck to you! Remember, leave all your illusions at home--they won't help you.

*~Mi Vida Loca~* · Mar 08, 2009, 08:20 PM

I am not sure what me gong to NS has to do with grades and being a good nurse. I am under no illusions for what's in store for me and that is why I have spent the last few years planning accordingly and preparing my children for how crazy and hectic life is going to become for the next 2 years.

I didn't denounce at all what Nursing School is like. All I did was comment that grades ALONE do not make a Good or Bad nurse. Their are more factors to it.

"You're about to enter a world that makes absolutely no sense, plays by its own rules, and the rules change without notice."

This is how life has been for me since as far back as I can remember. If I can make it through some of the most vial and disgusting things and craziness I have been put through so far in my life, I can make it through nursing school. I have no doubts about that. It's who I am and who I will always be. I do not break easy.

I will make sure to post when I graduate though, I have many doubts, fears, excitement and so on about starting in a few months, but I have NO DOUBT that I will make it!