Union

Oct 15, 2008 08:45 AM

by momx4

They are speaking of a possibilty of bringing an union in my hospital. I am a very new nurse and curious if anyone can give me the positives and negatives of their prior experiences. I know this is not OB related but curious if it would be a benefit for an OB nurse.

Thanks

leosasha · Oct 15, 2008, 09:09 AM

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On the pro side I would have to know which union. There is more than one out there unionizing nurses today. On the downside, some autonomy must be sacrificed in the name of collectivity.

*SmilingBluEyes* · Oct 15, 2008, 09:40 AM

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It really depends on what union, also. They are not equal. Some are strong and good at advocating for nurses' rights; others have no teeth. You need to know which union is being invited in----and what is proposed they will do for you. If you become an all-union shop, you will have no choice but to join.

Iam46yearsold · Oct 15, 2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by leosasha

On the pro side I would have to know which union. There is more than one out there unionizing nurses today. On the downside, some autonomy must be sacrificed in the name of collectivity.

Autonomy should never be sacrificed in the name of collectivity

How frightening that autonomy be sacrificed in todays world.

ocankhe · Oct 15, 2008, 12:21 PM

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The sacraficing of autonomy in the name of collectivity is the basis upon which civillization is based. The question is how much is given up or taken in exchange for the benefits of collectivity.

Iam46yearsold · Oct 15, 2008, 09:52 PM

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Collectivity should never surpass Autonomy

leosasha · Oct 16, 2008, 11:02 AM

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I don'nt believe either should be surpassive. A balance should be obtained. You have no group in structure without thinking collectively as the whole. We are giving up our autonomy to everyone else so why not each other. Would we not care more about each other than anyone else. In caring for each other collectively are we not giving more care to the patient.

momx4 · Oct 16, 2008, 11:13 AM

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I was just curious if anyone had an union come in and do great things for the nurses or an union came in and wasnt a good experience. I dont have any specifics on who is or if any are even coming,just curious about what other nurses had experienced with an union hospital.
Thanks for your time everyone.

leosasha · Oct 16, 2008, 11:48 AM

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Unions have been a fact of life in California for many years. They have mandated staffing ratios. The nurses there are very cohesive. My massage therapist is also a nursing student and considering returning to her home state of California to practice. In conjunction with the the Chicago nurses in Cook County the CNA established the National Nurses Organizing Committee (NNOC) a little while back. The NNOC is organizing all over the country and working toward staffing ratios. The one thing I feel that they have done is give Nurses a new sense of hope that it can get better. It is difficult for me to grasp that a union is needed to force institutions to staff more appropriately. HELLO! Does it make sense to work the nurse to death?

lily2008 · Oct 17, 2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by leosasha

Unions have been a fact of life in California for many years. They have mandated staffing ratios. The nurses there are very cohesive. My massage therapist is also a nursing student and considering returning to her home state of California to practice. In conjunction with the the Chicago nurses in Cook County the CNA established the National Nurses Organizing Committee (NNOC) a little while back. The NNOC is organizing all over the country and working toward staffing ratios. The one thing I feel that they have done is give Nurses a new sense of hope that it can get better. It is difficult for me to grasp that a union is needed to force institutions to staff more appropriately. HELLO! Does it make sense to work the nurse to death?

From all I've read the CNA doesn't actually do any of its own organizing, heh.

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