Replacement-Nurse Company: Undermines Progress - page 3

FYI, here's the posting on the web site of U.S. Nursing Corp., which supplies replacement workers, including RNs, to employers during strikes, that is now seeking replacement RNs for the ongoing... Read More

  1. by   tridil2000
    Quote from NurseyBaby'05
    Not only that, but you wonder what the working conditions are like to begin with at the facility. If the staff felt the need to unionize in the first place, they were probably not so good. They can't be getting any better with this other stuff going on. The nurses coming in to a bad situation should be getting premium wages. If the hospital is too cheap to pay their own employees a premium wage, what are these people suppossed to do? Volunteer and work for free? Have you signed up to work out of the goodness of your heart? At the end of the day I know who has my back, it's me. Not other nurses, not management and not union reps. Sure they all like to blow smoke up certain orifices about what all they do for me, but we all know that's simply not true.
    you aksed what "these people supposed to do?"

    they should stay and live in their own communities and take up employment in their own backyards. then THEY won't have to travel around the country looking for hospitals on strike in order to make a living. once steadily employed, they can decide if their own benefits and pay are fair.

    i support the rwj nurses bc i think we all should have the opportunity to go to other drs and hospitals as patients. privacy is a right and with hipaa laws and fines in affect, i would think rwj would benefit in the long run by offering other options to the staff for their medical and nursing needs. rwj puts themselves at a lower hipaa risk by offering those opportunities to the nurses.
  2. by   tridil2000
    Quote from lizz
    Let them hire the replacement workers ... hopefully, it will cost them a fortune.

    The University of California strike last year cost them $9 million for just one day. After that, the union got a pretty good contract.

    Sometimes these expensive replacement workers can actually help the union get what they want because the cost of replacement workers can sometimes far exceed whatever the union is asking for.

    :typing.
    ya but hospitals see this as a chance to get union OUT of their facility and they're willing to pay a high price for that.
  3. by   tridil2000
    Quote from caroladybelle
    Please do not shout...to write large amounts of text in caps is very rude.

    As far as I am concerned, I have always had my care done at the facilities in which I work. And my coworkers are pretty much free to know what I have had, as a survivor of cancer, someone who lives with chronic illness, and takes antidepressants. Those that will think bad things, will no matter what, and those that won't, don't.

    My work gives me my reputation for excellent nursing care.....which survives any medical treatments, and stands, regardless of seniority and unions.

    The issues with privacy that you are worried about have more to do with not trusting your fellow staff members w/ privacy issues than a management issue. The question becomes why would you want to work in a place that you so distrust? Union, or no union, these ethical issues should be fixed - merely shifting those procedures and employee/patients off just allows the unethical behavior (in regard to privacy) to continue.
    gossip is human nature. look at how many tabloids are making billions off of gossip each year!!

    if you're on zoloft and think your coworkers don't know, you are being niave.

    also, what if your boss decides that maybe you're not up to snuff and knows your meds?

    the cop who comes in to your er on antidepressants has more privacy than you! his boss may never ever know what his issues are.... and he shouldn't.

    these nurses have that right too. we *all* do, nurses or not.
  4. by   Sheri257
    Quote from tridil2000
    ya but hospitals see this as a chance to get union OUT of their facility and they're willing to pay a high price for that.
    I guess there's always a risk of that happening. It probably it depends on the local marketplace and whether there are enough replacements. With the University of California, everybody from the nurse anesthetists to the floor nurses had voted to walk. There was no way they could replace them at $9 million a day and still function, which is why they ultimately struck a deal with the union.

    :typing
  5. by   nyforlove
    Quote from caroladybelle
    Please do not shout...to write large amounts of text in caps is very rude.

    As far as I am concerned, I have always had my care done at the facilities in which I work. And my coworkers are pretty much free to know what I have had, as a survivor of cancer, someone who lives with chronic illness, and takes antidepressants. Those that will think bad things, will no matter what, and those that won't, don't.

    My work gives me my reputation for excellent nursing care.....which survives any medical treatments, and stands, regardless of seniority and unions.

    The issues with privacy that you are worried about have more to do with not trusting your fellow staff members w/ privacy issues than a management issue. The question becomes why would you want to work in a place that you so distrust? Union, or no union, these ethical issues should be fixed - merely shifting those procedures and employee/patients off just allows the unethical behavior (in regard to privacy) to continue.
    I guess I missed the Internet tutorial where it explains that ALL CAPITALS means "rude"--I thought it just indicated emphasis...with the way technology is progressing, perhaps we one day on allnurses.com will leave voice-recordings and not just typed communication--then you'll know I wasn't shouting...I'm glad you're fine with getting all your care at your employer, but many others aren't...You say the issue is "Why work in a place you distrust?" Well, yeah, why give the employer our Social Security # and work at all?--'cuz we need the money and even if we trust 99.9% of our co-workers, all it takes is one outlier to mess around with private health info/identity theft.....Many people are not comfortable with others having access to their info, although it's great that you're okay with it--that's your choice.
    Last edit by nyforlove on Sep 9, '06
  6. by   PANurseRN1
    Well, since you missed it, here's a link to get you started:

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    Last edit by PANurseRN1 on Sep 9, '06
  7. by   nyforlove
    Quote from nyforlove
    I guess I missed the Internet tutorial where it explains that ALL CAPITALS means "rude"--I thought it just indicated emphasis...with the way technology is progressing, perhaps we one day on allnurses.com will leave voice-recordings and not just typed communication--then you'll know I wasn't shouting...I'm glad you're fine with getting all your care at your employer, but many others aren't...You say the issue is "Why work in a place you distrust?" Well, yeah, why give the employer our Social Security # and work at all?--'cuz we need the money and even if we trust 99.9% of our co-workers, all it takes is one outlier to mess around with private health info/identity theft.....Many people are not comfortable with others having access to their info, although it's great that you're okay with it--that's your choice.
    ...and if many of the RWJ nurses feel like you do, they will probably continue getting their nonemergent care at RWJ (all other things--such as quality, distance, etc.--being equal) and thus mgmt will learn that the cost of the new health option is not as large as was feared...Apparently, the hospital is not willing to even consider offering an alternative---seems unnecessarily obstinate---can't they arrange something with another hospital where they "trade" their own nurse-patients who prefer to be treated outside their own workplace for nonemergent care...Seems so ironic that nurses--who are on the front line of arranging care for their patients--are receiving short shrift from their very own hospital....
  8. by   ironica01
    I don't agree with the idea of going to RWJUH for my treatment and have everybody to know what's going on with me. One example is one staff decided to do the treatment and got admitted at RWJUH. With one bolt of thunder everybody on the floor found out this staff is HIV positive. If this staff went to another hospital do you think this pt's co-workers would know about this condition? and that's why we have HIPAA law. It is not that I don't trust my co-workers with their skill, I just want to keep my privacy, is that too much to ask?
  9. by   P_RN
    re: all caps posting. see the terms of service you agreed to when registering here.
    please do not type entirely in capitals as considered shouting on the internet! along with using proper english spelling and punctuation, this shows respect for the owner, other bulletin board members & guests and makes it easier to read your important thoughts.
    also again i remind posters to debate the topic and not the other members please.
  10. by   caroladybelle
    Quote from tridil2000

    if you're on zoloft and think your coworkers don't know, you are being niave.

    also, what if your boss decides that maybe you're not up to snuff and knows your meds?
    Please reread what I posted......my coworkers and boss do frequently know my meds. And in good units in makes no difference. And I could care less about working for the bad ones - they would find a reason to gripe no matter what my condition.
  11. by   nyforlove
    Quote from p_rn
    re: all caps posting. see the terms of service you agreed to when registering here.


    also again i remind posters to debate the topic and not the other members please.
    wow--i stand corrected--sorry; is there an alternative for providing emphasis?
  12. by   caroladybelle
    There are different colors, setting up paragraphs, and different sizes of type.
    But part of the point is .....did you really need to emphasize such an large amount of type?

    If you type lines and lines of type, all with "emphasis" -by caps, colors, size, etc.- the "emphasis" loses its meaning and becomes redundant.

    If you emphasize everything that you write, sooner or later, no one even bothers to read it. Then you have lost your ability to get your message across. Thus, it is best to limit it so it does not lose meaning.

    It would have also helped if you had explained the situation (the facility making staff get medical care at that center and not any other, I assume - as it was not very clear) and then using emphasis. As many posters are unaware of the issues between the striking nurses and the facility, they are left in the dark. The original topic - use of replacement nurses - also does not enlighten them.
  13. by   banditrn
    Privacy for an employee is a joke most times.

    A couple of years ago, I developed osteomyelitis in one foot. I had surgery, then was placed on IV Vancomycin. A nurse there decided that if I was on Vancomycin, I must have MRSA, and told everyone. My supervisor decided that it was then her 'right' to go to my doctor and question him about whether it would be 'safe' to have me work with patients or not.

    No one every asked me about it, my doc told me that the supervisor had come to him.

    I finally traced it back to the nurse who originally started the MRSA talk, and asked her what gave her the right to speculate about something like that. Especially since she had NEVER been involved in my care.

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