New national nurses union forms - page 10

A new national union of up to 154,000 registered nurses was created in Phoenix today, replacing one of the most aggressive nurse unions in the industry and combining its membership with two other nurse-only labor groups to form... Read More

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    Quote from PICUPNP
    If so many Texas nurses are fed up with their jobs, why aren't the unions proliferating here?
    Maybe it's something to do with Texas culture , don't you think ? . From reading the various threads on this Forum , there are a lot of nurses who do not like the working conditions in Texas , but are too are scared to do anything , for fear of retribution from their employer or being placed on the Group 1 blacklist.

    If Texas is such a haven for nurses why is it that employers have to resort to the above tactics to keep their staff keep their staff in their place ?
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    What tactics?? Texas culture is anything but people not standing up for theirselves. The nurses I have had the pleasure of working with are more than able to stand up for theirselves. I tend to think that its because we are right to work and the unions would find themselves unionizing hospitals with no way of recouping their ridiculous dues. If the union doesn't stand to make any money off of the nurses they represent, how could they possibly continue to pay their leader over $200K/yr. Why is it that the union didn't last very long in Houston? Why don't we active campaigning at area hospitals other than the feable attempts to disguise themselves as healthcare workers handing out union cards? There's no money to be made off the nurses in Texas and most of us know a bad thing when we see it!
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    Texas(Page 8)

    While their campaign to negotiate the first private-sector collective bargaining agreement for RNs in Texas history is known throughout the country, registered nurses at Cypress Fairbanks Medical Center in Houston are blazing another trail with the founding of their first professional practice committee (PPC) in October.

    "We decided that we did not need to wait for contract negotiations to be complete to have a strong advocacy committee for our patients," said Raul Sotelo, an ICU RN and bargaining team member at Cypress Fairbanks.

    The PPC is a nurse-led, nurse-run committee that meets monthly.
    Unlike other hospital "committees," the PPC does not include members of management and formulates independent opinions and recommendations.

    Cy-Fair nurses have already negotiated a "tentative agreement" that their PPC will be recognized by hospital management once a contract is in place, will meet on paid time, and can require a written response from hospital management on all of its recommendations.

    http://www.calnurses.org/publication...g_oct_2009.pdf
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    Quote from picupnp
    what tactics??as mentioned above retribution and blacklisting amongst others, as mentioned by texas in other threads on this forum . texas culture is anything but people not standing up for theirselves. the nurses i have had the pleasure of working with are more than able to stand up for theirselves i have the pleasure of working with nurses who can stand up for themselves and are prepared to work collectively , inconjunction with the union as and when necessary .n.b. we have no problem with people standing up for themselve , the union is simply there to support them if employer pressure is focussed upon them inappropriately .. i tend to think that its because we are right to work and the unions would find themselves unionizing hospitals with no way of recouping their ridiculous dues. if the union doesn't stand to make any money off of the nurses they represent, how could they possibly continue to pay their leader over $200k/yr. why is it that the union didn't last very long in houston?last i heard the union is still there , no decision from nlrb yet , i know you will correct me if i am wrong . why don't we active campaigning at area hospitals other than the feable attempts to disguise themselves as healthcare workers handing out union cards?please elaborate as to the circumstances of this event , as i am not aware of it and as i said on another thread with you , if organizers were acting in a manner that could / should have been reported then reportthem to the appropriate authority there's no money to be made off the nurses in texas and most of us know a bad thing when we see it!

    what happenened to the two nurses in texas , i believe winkler county who were being prosecuted for reporting a doctors illegal activities to the tmb . quite a good example of where advocacy for patients can get nurses in texas and another example of the tactica you seem to be unaware of .

    merry chrismas to all participants upon the allnurse forum
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    what happened to the first three hospitals on the neutrality agreement between cna/nnoc?




    join us in congratulating our sister hospital facilities and nurse that have successfully blocked cna/nnoc from going to a vote.... houston northwest and park plaza hospitals in houston, texas. the other facility cypress fairbanks is in the process of an anti-union decertification election as you read this today.. our votes and support are will all of you ! [color=#a618ad]see the official nlrb withdrawl below... it is truly a shame that they have to blame everyone else but the fact that they did not have enough signatures! nurses do have a voice and they have proven it ... and they didn't have to pay any monthly dues either!
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    Where are the mighty unions to save us!!!
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    Pediatrics doesn't seem to be having a problem with lack of hiring, or short staffing issues- the papers here in Philly are full of open positions for peds bedside nurses and PNP's( pediatric Nurse Practioners). It's us nurses with the hospitialized adults that are running around short handed, and treated like crap when we do. We get the crap from all angles- patients, doctors, families, management. The Nurse Practioners dont. I have nothing against nurse practioner's and have stated my support for them on other threads. I feel the reason the Nurse Practioner doesn't get the same disrespect that us bedside nurses do is probably the "white labcoat'. Many patients and families mistake them for doctors(who they would NEVER speak to the way we 'nurses' get spoken to) I think it would be interesting to see how the NP would get spoken to if they would were just scrubs and no lab coat. Some families, patients are just plain confused about the NP/APN role. If the NP would just wear scrubs, go into the patient and say Hi, I'mm ...., YOUR NURSE ( not as a nurse aztached to or belonging to a doctor) or ONE OF THE NURSES taking care of you- see what they get in terms of treatment. I, also, don't know of any Nurse Practioners who are not considered management . I don't see too many nurse practioners in the adult patient population doing bedside nursing either. I work with a bedside nurse who just left Texas- she was a ped's nurse and states the pay is very poor there. Texas always seems to have many travel nursing assignments when the rest of the country has little to none, and looking at the travel nursing rates, I can see why- I'm not going to Texas or anywhere else for $28.00/hr, even if we do have 2 feet of snow here in Philly!!
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    in response to karenchad's post about different responses towards rn vs np

    btw in cali within kaiser hospital system rn, np and pa are all union members.
    np's get $10-$15/hr more then staff rn's

    unac represents approximately 4,900 kaiser permanente employees (registered nurses, registered nurse practitioners and some physician assistants) in kern, los angeles, san bernardino, riverside, ventura and san diego counties under several contracts, all of which are covered by the recent negotiations.

    http://www.allbusiness.com/labor-emp...7142917-1.html

    karenchad is on the money with her observation of differences in how nurses are preceived and treated compared to np's. and i see pa and np as having so much freedom and independance that they are not in as much a subordinate role as the rn. i never hear md's acting out making a scene in patient care areas with the np/pa but that is a frequent occurence in md/ rn interactions.

    pt's and or family would frequently express their anger and dump on the rn at long waits and complain about how long it was taken for a dr. to take care of them. once the doctor shows up the pt. or /family is all smiles and no complaints!
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    [quote=nicurn001;4035789]What happenened to the two nurses in Texas , I believe Winkler county who were being prosecuted for reporting a doctors illegal activities to the TMB . Quite a good example of where advocacy for patients can get nurses in Texas and another example of the Tactics you seem to be unaware of .

    Interesting PICUPNP you chose not to address the above point , Maybe it doesn't fit in with your portrayal of the nursing Utopia Texas is , or that it shows the potential folly of individual nursing action in Texas ?.

    What are your feeling about Group1being used to blackball nurse who step out of line ?. Frankly I would be somewhat surpised if you address these points , but as it's Xmas you might surprise me .
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