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    NO--that is average salary for a FTE on my unit only.

    And in all honesty I was sort of apathetic at the start of this so don't have all my facts down (we probably agree on more things than we would disagree). I do agree with you that the Union and their overly long fliers and videos turn me off too....at first. Now after seeing my working conditions degrade so much I am singing a different tune and am fighting, stinking mad.

    I don't see Sutter as getting their due. I wish. It is so hard to find a job in the Bay Area and this will likely be the case for awhile (but if there is ever a nursing shortage again you can bet your A$$ I will be posting on this board warning away all new grads from Sutter). What I imagine happening is other local Hospital groups--the ones that still make a healthy profit with decent benefits/salaries, with lift teams and adequate supplies at bedside, and nurse friendly environments--watching our fight closely and going the way of Sutter business model. And I need to restate that I am a former MBA and I endorse fiscal conservatism as well as a healthy profit for my company; but again I need to state what Sutter does goes beyond ethical. So, I've come to the conclusion we have to stand and fight otherwise every work situation in the Bay Area will degrade.

    And while we probably agree more than disagree on Unions, the other thing that I find upsetting is that you are saying the RN's shouldn't fight for their average health benefits (at least comparable to Hospital groups around here) and salaries against a corporation with one of the healthiest profit margins in the Bay Area? I don't know, I think my three kids deserve to have their middle income life preserved for the hard work I do over the upper management and their huge bonuses.

    Honestly, this is not why I myself started to join the strike line. I work two jobs in order to afford my mortgage and put my kids thru school so I am not scared of husttlin to earn my paper; but rather I strike due to deteriorating work conditions I've outlined above. The management endorsed bullying and nurse on nurse violence this has created within a Hospital known for having a "Hippy/Berkely" vibe is astonishing--someone should write a paper on this. And yes I do wish my union focused more on these things, but they need to focus on the contract and I don't think the Union or anyone can articulate the horrible environment we currently have at bedside. Sutter gets away with this because jobs are scarce right now. I know as soon as I can I will get my butt out of there. I don't have the patience to watch the videos but every one of my peers on that strike line (and my whole entire unit 100% went on strike) might have their different reasons and as you can even see by my rambling reply I am not the most articulate--but you can bet your A$$ I'm the RN you want taking care of your loved one. Lets just agree to disagree (and probably we agree more than disagree).

    Yours in Nursing, TR
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    Quote from Testa Rosa, RN
    NO--that is average salary for a FTE on my unit only.

    And in all honesty I was sort of apathetic at the start of this so don't have all my facts down (we probably agree on more things than we would disagree). I do agree with you that the Union and their overly long fliers and videos turn me off too....at first. Now after seeing my working conditions degrade so much I am singing a different tune and am fighting, stinking mad.

    I don't see Sutter as getting their due. I wish. It is so hard to find a job in the Bay Area and this will likely be the case for awhile (but if there is ever a nursing shortage again you can bet your A$$ I will be posting on this board warning away all new grads from Sutter). What I imagine happening is other local Hospital groups--the ones that still make a healthy profit with decent benefits/salaries, with lift teams and adequate supplies at bedside, and nurse friendly environments--watching our fight closely and going the way of Sutter business model. And I need to restate that I am a former MBA and I endorse fiscal conservatism as well as a healthy profit for my company; but again I need to state what Sutter does goes beyond ethical. So, I've come to the conclusion we have to stand and fight otherwise every work situation in the Bay Area will degrade.

    And while we probably agree more than disagree on Unions, the other thing that I find upsetting is that you are saying the RN's shouldn't fight for their average health benefits (at least comparable to Hospital groups around here) and salaries against a corporation with one of the healthiest profit margins in the Bay Area? I don't know, I think my three kids deserve to have their middle income life preserved for the hard work I do over the upper management and their huge bonuses.

    Honestly, this is not why I myself started to join the strike line. I work two jobs in order to afford my mortgage and put my kids thru school so I am not scared of husttlin to earn my paper; but rather I strike due to deteriorating work conditions I've outlined above. The management endorsed bullying and nurse on nurse violence this has created within a Hospital known for having a "Hippy/Berkely" vibe is astonishing--someone should write a paper on this. And yes I do wish my union focused more on these things, but they need to focus on the contract and I don't think the Union or anyone can articulate the horrible environment we currently have at bedside. Sutter gets away with this because jobs are scarce right now. I know as soon as I can I will get my butt out of there. I don't have the patience to watch the videos but every one of my peers on that strike line (and my whole entire unit 100% went on strike) might have their different reasons and as you can even see by my rambling reply I am not the most articulate--but you can bet your A$$ I'm the RN you want taking care of your loved one. Lets just agree to disagree (and probably we agree more than disagree).

    Yours in Nursing, TR
    Actually, you articulate your case well. I periodically get into one of these strike discussions on AN, and you are one of the rare few (actually the only one who comes to mind) who makes any sense when taking the side of striking nurses. I can relate to what you say about picketing in large part because you know the union is focused on the contract and you want to be a voice that speaks to the working environment.

    I believe that taking care of employees and providing them the means to take care of patients the best they can is also the best way to make a profit. I am hopeful and believe that most hospital groups also believe this, and those looking on see Sutter as the wrong way to do business.

    Now, I'm over sitting at this dumb computer but I still have more Cyber Monday shopping to do before I'm off to better things. Good luck to you!
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