PLESE HELP! CNA 1, CNA 2 and Phlebotomy+EKG+IV Therapy

[Bebi11]

Hi everyone :-)

This is my first post.

I hope you will be able to help me here. I want to go into nursing. I found a school that offers CNA 1, CNA 2 (advanced courses) and Phlebotomy+EKG+IV Therapy.

Here are the details:

CNA 1 (150 hrs 6-8 weeks) includes:

handwashing, first aid, put on and remove gown, mask and gloves, move the resident to the side of the bed, move the resident up in bed, positon the resident in a supine position, - in Fowler's position, -in a lateral position, move the resident from bed to chair using a safety belt, -using a saftey belt and 2 nurse assistants, make an occupied bed, -an unoccupied bed, brush the resident's teeth, -dentures, mouthcare for unconscuious resident, give a bed bath upper body, -lower body, hips, legs and feet), give a back rub, perineal care only, brush and comb hair, shave, clean and trim fingernails, dress, undress, assist a resident to eat, measure the hight using an upright scale, -in bed, measure weight using an upright scale, assust with a bedpan, -with an urinal, take oral temperature, take an axillary temperature with a glass thermometer, take a rectal temperature, take oral temperature using a digital thermometer, count resident's pulse, count resident's respirations, take blood pressure, perform a passive ROM (upper bodey and lower body), assist in walking using a saftey belt

Supplies: textbook, blood presure kit, scrubs, adult CPR/AED, infant & child CPR, first aid, Bloodborne Pathingen, review preperation for the state exam, job placement, continous support & counseling

CNA 2 (Patient Care Technitian) (4 weeks) includes:

oxygen therapy, nasogastric tube feeding, gastrostomy feeding, blood glucose monitoring, laboratory specimens, collections of stool specimen, duoderm or non-sterile dressing change, care of and changing the colostomy or ileostomy appliance, oropharyngeal suctioning, catheter insertion, foley, or straight, for inserting straight catheter, foley catheter care, bowel sounds, lung sounds, obervation & charting, blood flow to the heart oral & written, use of the ambul bag

Supplies: textbook, hunter green scrubs, 1 white lab coat, 1 stethoscope, Bloodborne Pathogen (Training and Certification)

Phlebotomy, EKG, IV Therapy (8 weeks)

Phlebotomy Certificate- 4 life successful venipuncture, and 2 capillary finger sticks for the clinical lab analysis

EKG Certificate- successfully completed a course in a 12-lead electrocardiogram. Demonstrated by perfomance and interpretation of 2, EKG normal sinus rhythm strip

medical assistant: IV, Therapy & Injections

1 IV's requiring performance of 1 intramuscular, 1 subcutaneous, and 1 interdermal injection.

Supplies: text (3 courses), 1 hunter green uniform, 1 lab kit complete

Each of those courses costs 800 dollars (with discount included).

What do you think? Is it "worth it" the money. I plan on going RN in the future but I wanted to start with CNA first.

Any help and advise would be helpful :-)

[suec_83]

I actually was in the same situation as you. I actually got hired with a hospital and they trained me to be a med/surg tech and ER tech with phlebotomy, most hospitals will train you. Alot of nursing schools have prereq's to have your CNA before you start your nursing classes. Plus being in the medical field always helps you learn. You see alot of what you are learned. alot of times far in advance of when it is taught. And you will learn in your CNA class that you are NOT allowed to insert or remove anything from the body, by law. So its best just to go with the CNA and let your employer train you on anything else. Free stuff.. why not?! right? Good Luck!

[JeepDudeRN]

Hey...Well i was completely floored when I read that post. Im down in Florida, and have been a CNA for along time, Im also getting ready to start my 2nd semester in an RN program. WE havent even learned 1/2 of what your "CNA" course teaches you. I can tell you one thing, in Florida it is COMPLETELY out of the scope of practice for a CNA to do any injections, tube feeding, suctioning or IV therapy. If you do that here, you wont ever be a licensed nurse. I would be very careful about that course,a nd I would defintely find out from the Board of Nursing what your scope of practice is, and whatever you do, DO NOT go outside of it. Most of what you describe in for LPN's and RN's, not CNA's. Be careful, and good luck.

[BuddahNature]

I just saw your post.Here is my opinion.Never be afraid of learning more than you need to.Down the line if not now,your knowledge will serve you.Perhaps there are some skills in this CNA course you will not need,but I feel you might stand out for better positions when you go to apply for a position.If you want to work in a hospital,it may increase your chances of getting a job there,making better money than in a nursing home. If you plan on going to nursing school,you have a little edge on those who know nothing at all. The things you will learn in the CNA courses will boost your confidence in nursing school,and cut down on your anxiety level. I do not see how you can lose in this situation.

[riotgrrl]

i wouldnt pay for any classes. just keep applying to nursing homes and hospitals and eventually you will get hired.

in june i applied to both. was hired @ nursing home in july. they payed for all my cna classes and the state exam. now i have been hired by a hospital and they will be giving me additional training for ekg, gluc., & phlebotomy.

[javertech]

I have been a C.N.A. since 1989. I work at a hospital as a monitor techician, unit secretary, and PCT III. I am competent to do EKG's, draw blood, start IVs, in addition to being a C.N.A. I was trained on the job by the hospital I work for. All the classes were I have taken were through the hospital. I did not get an official certificate but I do have my competencies were I completed the required competencies to be able to be considered a PCT III. The only thing you would be paying for would be certification. I got the same training for free through the facility were I work.

Hi everyone :-)

This is my first post.

I hope you will be able to help me here. I want to go into nursing. I found a school that offers CNA 1, CNA 2 (advanced courses) and Phlebotomy+EKG+IV Therapy.

Here are the details:

CNA 1 (150 hrs 6-8 weeks) includes:

handwashing, first aid, put on and remove gown, mask and gloves, move the resident to the side of the bed, move the resident up in bed, positon the resident in a supine position, - in Fowler's position, -in a lateral position, move the resident from bed to chair using a safety belt, -using a saftey belt and 2 nurse assistants, make an occupied bed, -an unoccupied bed, brush the resident's teeth, -dentures, mouthcare for unconscuious resident, give a bed bath upper body, -lower body, hips, legs and feet), give a back rub, perineal care only, brush and comb hair, shave, clean and trim fingernails, dress, undress, assist a resident to eat, measure the hight using an upright scale, -in bed, measure weight using an upright scale, assust with a bedpan, -with an urinal, take oral temperature, take an axillary temperature with a glass thermometer, take a rectal temperature, take oral temperature using a digital thermometer, count resident's pulse, count resident's respirations, take blood pressure, perform a passive ROM (upper bodey and lower body), assist in walking using a saftey belt

Supplies: textbook, blood presure kit, scrubs, adult CPR/AED, infant & child CPR, first aid, Bloodborne Pathingen, review preperation for the state exam, job placement, continous support & counseling

CNA 2 (Patient Care Technitian) (4 weeks) includes:

oxygen therapy, nasogastric tube feeding, gastrostomy feeding, blood glucose monitoring, laboratory specimens, collections of stool specimen, duoderm or non-sterile dressing change, care of and changing the colostomy or ileostomy appliance, oropharyngeal suctioning, catheter insertion, foley, or straight, for inserting straight catheter, foley catheter care, bowel sounds, lung sounds, obervation & charting, blood flow to the heart oral & written, use of the ambul bag

Supplies: textbook, hunter green scrubs, 1 white lab coat, 1 stethoscope, Bloodborne Pathogen (Training and Certification)

Phlebotomy, EKG, IV Therapy (8 weeks)

Phlebotomy Certificate- 4 life successful venipuncture, and 2 capillary finger sticks for the clinical lab analysis

EKG Certificate- successfully completed a course in a 12-lead electrocardiogram. Demonstrated by perfomance and interpretation of 2, EKG normal sinus rhythm strip

medical assistant: IV, Therapy & Injections

1 IV's requiring performance of 1 intramuscular, 1 subcutaneous, and 1 interdermal injection.

Supplies: text (3 courses), 1 hunter green uniform, 1 lab kit complete

Each of those courses costs 800 dollars (with discount included).

What do you think? Is it "worth it" the money. I plan on going RN in the future but I wanted to start with CNA first.

Any help and advise would be helpful :-)

[Pmommie]

In AZ, CNA's do all the things that Bebe11 listed under the CNA 2 or Patient Care Technician. I took those classes and the nursing home I was working for paid for the course so I didn't have to. I was glad that I did, and I only say that because since moving to CO (DH is military), a lot of the Centura Health facilities and Memorial Hospital hires PCTs, you have to show your supervising RN that you know what you are doing, and they sign off after physically watching that you are doing the procedures correctly; also some of the Centura Health facilities will give you a refresher course.

[happyhelper]

I think that alot of those courses are for advance techs already working in hospitals. The truth of the matter is as a cna alot of hospitals don't hire cna's w/o any work experience, so Taking the (PCT) course would be an excellent choice if u really want my .As a PCT you get more experience than a CNA meaning you get hired faster at a hospital and without work experience. I am currently enrolled in a Patient Care Tech course now and it includes CNA cert, EKG cert, Phlebotomy cert and they train to do ivs and foleys.The class included books, scrubs, shoes, and I received a free dell laptop.

They will also be giving me my national exam on site for free.

[sherriberry1]

(phlebotomy certificate- 4 life successful venipuncture, and 2 capillary finger sticks for the clinical lab analysis) ??????doesn't sound right???

i completed the phlebotomy program august 2007- dec 2007(it cost $129.00)..we had 6 weeks of class even before we were allowed in the clinicals(we had to pass our skills check offs and final test)

we had 40 hrs hospital er...then 80 hrs at a doctor's office (120 hrs clinical setting). we had to have at least 100 successful sticks and 25 finger sticks

next we had to play $90 to take the national phlebotomy exam to get our license..it had 150 questions on it.

i would make sure that was a legit program before i spent all that money.

[bohica]

that sound awfully exspensive in north carolina i took the cna 1 for 65$ then i had to buy my book and supplies which was maybe another 150$ , and then at the same school they let you take the cna2 for 18$ if you have taken your cna 1 at that school (its a community college ) and we use the same textbook so i know there are cheaper courses. oh and i dont know where you live but here if you want to work at a hospital they want cna2s so i think it depends where you live and where you wanna work , hope this helps good luck on your journey.

[ZanatuBelmont]

Hi everyone :-)

This is my first post.

I hope you will be able to help me here. I want to go into nursing. I found a school that offers CNA 1, CNA 2 (advanced courses) and Phlebotomy+EKG+IV Therapy.

Here are the details:

CNA 1 (150 hrs 6-8 weeks) includes:

handwashing, first aid, put on and remove gown, mask and gloves, move the resident to the side of the bed, move the resident up in bed, positon the resident in a supine position, - in Fowler's position, -in a lateral position, move the resident from bed to chair using a safety belt, -using a saftey belt and 2 nurse assistants, make an occupied bed, -an unoccupied bed, brush the resident's teeth, -dentures, mouthcare for unconscuious resident, give a bed bath upper body, -lower body, hips, legs and feet), give a back rub, perineal care only, brush and comb hair, shave, clean and trim fingernails, dress, undress, assist a resident to eat, measure the hight using an upright scale, -in bed, measure weight using an upright scale, assust with a bedpan, -with an urinal, take oral temperature, take an axillary temperature with a glass thermometer, take a rectal temperature, take oral temperature using a digital thermometer, count resident's pulse, count resident's respirations, take blood pressure, perform a passive ROM (upper bodey and lower body), assist in walking using a saftey belt

Supplies: textbook, blood presure kit, scrubs, adult CPR/AED, infant & child CPR, first aid, Bloodborne Pathingen, review preperation for the state exam, job placement, continous support & counseling

CNA 2 (Patient Care Technitian) (4 weeks) includes:

oxygen therapy, nasogastric tube feeding, gastrostomy feeding, blood glucose monitoring, laboratory specimens, collections of stool specimen, duoderm or non-sterile dressing change, care of and changing the colostomy or ileostomy appliance, oropharyngeal suctioning, catheter insertion, foley, or straight, for inserting straight catheter, foley catheter care, bowel sounds, lung sounds, obervation & charting, blood flow to the heart oral & written, use of the ambul bag

Supplies: textbook, hunter green scrubs, 1 white lab coat, 1 stethoscope, Bloodborne Pathogen (Training and Certification)

Phlebotomy, EKG, IV Therapy (8 weeks)

Phlebotomy Certificate- 4 life successful venipuncture, and 2 capillary finger sticks for the clinical lab analysis

EKG Certificate- successfully completed a course in a 12-lead electrocardiogram. Demonstrated by perfomance and interpretation of 2, EKG normal sinus rhythm strip

medical assistant: IV, Therapy & Injections

1 IV's requiring performance of 1 intramuscular, 1 subcutaneous, and 1 interdermal injection.

Supplies: text (3 courses), 1 hunter green uniform, 1 lab kit complete

Each of those courses costs 800 dollars (with discount included).

What do you think? Is it "worth it" the money. I plan on going RN in the future but I wanted to start with CNA first.

Any help and advise would be helpful :-)

Those courses will help you, but you will learn all that in nursing school. I do commend you for reaching further, though - if you end up taking all those courses, you will potentially be a better nurse because of it. To be honest, though, the CNA classes are not necessary. You learn all that during nursing school and much of your clinical rotations consists of CNA work anyway. You will benefit more, I think, from taking the IV therapy and EKG courses.

Also, after you complete one semester of nursing school, you become eligible - at least in my state - to work as an aide. So, you will get CNA experience during lecture, in the lab, during rotations, and at a part-time job. That's what I did and I don't regret it!

[cjcsoon2bnp, MSN, RN, NP]

Do yourself a favor. Take the CNA I and Phlebotomy/EKG course and you can learn the rest in nursing school. The phlebotomy and EKG experience can help with getting a job in a hospital, because phlebotomy is not taught in most nursing schools many new grad nurses have never drawn blood from a patient before so its a sought after skill. After reading the description of the CNA II course many of the tasks described are things that should only be performed by a licensed nurse such as tube feedings, inserting catheters, dressing changes and auscultating heart/lung sounds. In fact, performing such tasks as a CNA could risk losing your license, technically I think a PCA can get away with it because they aren't licensed but if a complication happens then your going to be in a lot of trouble. So like I said, do yourself a favor and find out if the classes are legit and if so then take the CNA I and Phlebotomy/EKG classes and wait for nursing school for the rest. Good luck and let us know how it goes!

!Chris