Nursing Degrees: FAQs Concerning MA-to-RN Mobility - page 3

Numerous medical assistants thoroughly enjoy their jobs as workers in the allied healthcare field and couldnít imagine doing anything else. Other MAs feel trapped inside a circular vortex where rude doctors, routine tasks, rigid... Read More

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    Quote from kaydensmom01
    Yes MA's are better at technical tasks such as drawing blood and cathing sometimes, and although it is often confused by the MA as "doing the nurses job", this is not what nurses are hired for.
    Someone once said, "I do more than the nurses!"

    A wise, 'older' and experienced nurse responded, "As a nurse I'm not paid for what I do. I'm paid for what I know."

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    Quote from TheCommuter
    Someone once said, "I do more than the nurses!" A wise, 'older' and experienced nurse responded, "As a nurse I'm not paid for what I do. I'm paid for what I know."
    Word. :yes;
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    I could not agree with you more! I didn't go through a MA program but via experience have worked as one and now am a LPN, soon to be RN and yet I still could not disagree more with the comment you quoted! At my current job I struggle on a daily basis with what MA's can do without the proper education and foundation and more importantly governing body to oversee. They are unlicensed. At many places they may not even have to complete a program (ie myself). They are not supposed to, nor possess the skills, to assess and teach. Given that how could anyone think they could or should have responsibility for patient care and assessment! Just because some MA's, like myself, may possess "extra" skills and knowledge (likely because they are in their way to another career) that does not mean that they should be used as nurses....ugh, I could go on and on! It scares me because now especially with nursing education under my belt I see the room for error and lower quality patient care when facilities hire MA's in lieu of nurses. My employer included seemingly sees MA's as a lower cost option and thinks it is ok to decrease the number of nurses without clearly defining MA scope and the hierarchy that should exist. Employers and MA's need to be educated about the true nursing role.
    Last edit by melis112287 on Jan 4
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    Quote from PMFB-RN
    Oh my gosh! It is all I can do to not reply in the condescending and sarcastic manner the comment above deserves!
    My last comment was supposed to be in response to above, I didn't quote! Oops
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    Quote from melis112287
    I could not agree with you more! I didn't go through a MA program but via experience have worked as one and now am a LPN, soon to be RN and yet I still could not disagree more with the comment you quoted! At my current job I struggle on a daily basis with what MA's can do without the proper education and foundation and more importantly governing body to oversee. They are unlicensed. At many places they may not even have to complete a program (ie myself). They are not supposed to, nor possess the skills, to assess and teach. Given that how could anyone think they could or should have responsibility for patient care and assessment! Just because some MA's, like myself, may possess "extra" skills and knowledge (likely because they are in their way to another career) that does not mean that they should be used as nurses....ugh, I could go on and on! It scares me because now especially with nursing education under my belt I see the room for error and lower quality patient care when facilities hire MA's in lieu of nurses. My employer included seemingly sees MA's as a lower cost option and thinks it is ok to decrease the number of nurses without clearly defining MA scope and the hierarchy that should exist. Employers and MA's need to be educated about the true nursing role.
    I have also had several of them tell me they are nurses when I ask "are you a nurse"? Considering several have told me that, and I have little reason to visit a doctors office, I would guess that misrepresenting themselves and nurses is widespread.
    A young man I know was dating a new girl. Among other things he was excited to tell me that she was a nurse. I was happy for them but after several months things he was telling me about her were not adding up. Like for example how she said she could not afford to move out of her parents house despite the fact that she had no debt. I know what newer nurses make where I work and a debt free young person should have no trouble at all affording to live on their own on what nurses make in our area. When I finally met her I asked if she was an LPN or RN? She said she was a "doctors office nurse"!
    In the end it didn't work out, I think in no small part because of her dishonesty.
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    Quote from TheCommuter
    Numerous medical assistants thoroughly enjoy their jobs as workers in the allied healthcare field and couldnít imagine doing anything else. Other MAs feel trapped inside a circular vortex where rude doctors, routine tasks, rigid hours and low pay trigger their desire for another career that still involves patient care, procedural skills, and interaction in a healthcare setting.

    For many MAs, a career switch to nursing seems like a great idea. In reality, it is a great idea! However, MAs who are thinking about becoming nurses would be wise to realize a few things.

    So, are there any good MA-to-LPN or MA-to-RN bridge programs you can recommend?

    Sorry, but MA-to-LPN bridge programs do not exist. Neither do MA-to-RN completion programs. If one reads this and knows about one of these programs, feel free to share the name and location.

    Why donít MA-to-LPN or MA-to-RN programs exist? Itís a logical progression!

    The progression doesn't seem all that logical to me. This opinion is coming from a person who completed an MA program in 2000, an LPN/LVN program in 2005, and an LPN-to-RN associate of science degree bridge program in 2010. Medical assisting is a part of the medical model of care provision, whereas nursing has its own distinct nursing model of care. And even though many medical assisting procedural skills overlap with multiple nursing tasks, the two career fields are not as similar as they might seem to the naked eye. Since the LPN and RN roles both fall under the same nursing model, LPN-to-RN bridge programs are offered at countless schools.

    Can I challenge the boards to become an LPN or RN if I have years of MA experience?

    No board of nursing in any state in the union will allow applicants to challenge the board to attain licensure as a registered nurse. However, California will allow applicants with the right mix of experience to challenge the boards to obtain licensure as an LVN (licensed vocational nurse). According to the California Board of Vocational Nursing and Psychiatric Technicians (2011), qualifying for the licensure examination based on prior education and experience, often referred to as "the equivalency method," requires the applicant to provide documentation of a minimum of 51 months of paid general duty inpatient bedside nursing experience in a clinical facility and completion of a 54-theory-hour pharmacology course.

    Do I still need to attend a nursing program if I am a medical assistant?

    The admissions advisers of most nursing programs do not grant any time off for possessing many years of experience as an MA. In most cases you will still need to pass the same prerequisite courses as other applicants, attain acceptable scores on the same entrance exams that others must take, get accepted like everyone else, and enroll in the same nursing courses. If you completed your MA program at a regionally accredited community college, some credits might transfer to your nursing program. However, your credits probably will not transfer if you graduated from an investor-owned trade school that lacks regional accreditation. In other words, your medical assistant training and work experience is valuable, but not likely to cut much time off your ultimate goal of becoming a licensed nurse.
    Correction Miami Dade College is one college I know for sure that offers RMA to RN bridge into the nursing program and they have been offering it for years.
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    Quote from BDA12NV
    Correction Miami Dade College is one college I know for sure that offers RMA to RN bridge into the nursing program and they have been offering it for years.
    According to Miami-Dade College's website, the RN bridge program is designed for LPNs and others with specific healthcare experience. Nowhere on the website does it specify that this is a RMA-to-RN degree program.
    The Bridge Option is designed for Licensed Practical Nurses (PN) and other individuals with specific health-related education and license/certification who desire to become Registered Nurses. Graduates earn an Associate in Science Degree and are eligible to apply to write the National Council Licensure Examination to become Registered Nurses (NCLEX-RN).
    Medical Center Campus - Nursing Department
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    Please double check that website again http://www.mdc.edu/medical/nursing/rn_bridge_ps.asp
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    Quote from BDA12NV
    Please double check that website again Medical Center Campus - Nursing Department
    It is an LPN-to-RN bridge program that is also open to paramedics, respiratory therapists, former military medics, and yes, RMAs.
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    Quote from BDA12NV
    Please double check that website again Medical Center Campus - Nursing Department
    I don't see where this "bridge" program differs from the "general" prerequisites. It doesn't seem like a bridge at all. The prerequisites look identical to me with the exception of HSC 0003, Introduction to Health Care being waived.


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