"I'm an uncertified medical assistant" - page 14

I had a curious encounter at the doctor's office today. When I went in for my physical, a woman in scrubs came in ahead of the doc. She was wearing scrubs but no name tag. We hadn't met before, so I... Read More

  1. by   KellNY
    In my state, you can become a medical assistant in a number of ways-you can get your associates degree from the community college, you can go to a vo-tech school, or you can get on the job training. In either circumstance you can become certified (yes-even if you do not go to an accredited school-if you have a certain amount of work experience--2yrs I think--you can sit for the test) or not. Either way, you are legally and ethically employable as a Medical Assistant and allowed to call yourself such.

    Not so for a nurse-you either go to nursing school and pass the NCLEX....or you don't and thus are not a nurse in any respect.

    That is why the 'CMA vs MA' issue is not the same.
  2. by   TazziRN
    Quote from dbowens02
    Saying you are a MA does not make it so. They are not reconized in our state unless they have gone to school. I am done with this post. Off to better things. Have a good night.
    Okay, then it your state it cannot be done.


    You and I are beating the same horse from different sides and we're getting nowhere.
  3. by   EricJRN
    Quote from dbowens02
    Saying you are a MA does not make it so. They are not reconized in our state unless they have gone to school. I am done with this post. Off to better things. Have a good night.
    Are you from Arkansas? Here's a link which discusses that MA's do not need to be certified and that they don't need to have completed a specific formal training program. Look under Special Requirements.

    http://rpweb.uams.edu/ArkansasHealthCareers/MOP.asp
  4. by   ISNurse
    I have another question on this subject. Who can call themselves an RN? Do you need an active license? What about a person who was a nurse for 20 years but let the license lapse. Can they call themselves a RN?
    Thanks
  5. by   TazziRN
    No. You are not a registered nurse without the license. You are a former nurse.
  6. by   dbowens02
    Quote from EricEnfermero
    Are you from Arkansas? Here's a link which discusses that MA's do not need to be certified and that they don't need to have completed a specific formal training program. Look under Special Requirements.

    http://rpweb.uams.edu/ArkansasHealthCareers/MOP.asp
    In Arkansas you can not sit in on the CMA exam, but you can sit for the RMA with is not the same thing. Rma is under the med tech board and CMA is AAMA. If you attend an RMA program it is more geared toward lab. Thus the reason it is under the med tech board. Our clinic does not hire RMA's.
  7. by   smk1
    Quote from dbowens02
    If they did not go to school to be a medical asst., then they are not a medical asst. Same, if they did not go to school to be a nurse, they are not a nurse.
    THe problem is that you ARE able to work as or call yourself an MA even if you are not certified. You can't call yourself a CMA. I agree that the medical assisting field needs some basic, across the board, standard requirements.
  8. by   TazziRN
    Quote from SMK1
    THe problem is that you ARE able to work as or call yourself an MA even if you are not certified. You can't call yourself a CMA. I agree that the medical assisting field needs some basic, across the board, standard requirements.
    THANK YOU!!!!
  9. by   EricJRN
    Quote from dbowens02
    In Arkansas you can not sit in on the CMA exam, but you can sit for the RMA with is not the same thing.
    I wasn't discussing who can or cannot take the CMA exam. The point of my post is that non-certified MA's are an accepted entity in Arkansas, as they are in most states. You may need the cert to be hired in certain offices, but there is nothing that stops a person without a CMA/RMA from finding a medical assisting job.
  10. by   dbowens02
    Quote from SMK1
    THe problem is that you ARE able to work as or call yourself an MA even if you are not certified. You can't call yourself a CMA. I agree that the medical assisting field needs some basic, across the board, standard requirements.

    So true. You hit the nail on the head.
  11. by   studentrn08e
    i think this is blown way out of proportion. i myself was a "non certified ma" i was kinda offended when i read this post!!!:flamesonb I DID go to medical assistant school(graduated top in class) and worked in a couple of practices(both of which are associated with major hospitals)when i graduated we had to pass a board type test(just to graduate--it was not a certification)when i went for my 1st job--it WAS NOT required to be "certified" however i had an opportunity to get my certification--so i did. the requirements were an amount of venipuncture sticks and a test. i still work with girls who are not certified--but they can draw blood and handle pts better than those who are certified. for some offices it is not a requirement, and is merely a title for those who have it--it means nothing as far as quality pt care! as far as her misleading statements at first...well...thats another story! so be careful how you judge others---especially when you dont know the whole story . now 10 years later as an MA--i'm a RN nursing student and my experience although not all of it while i was "certified" has been beneficial!
  12. by   fultzymom
    Quote from studentrn08e
    i think this is blown way out of proportion. i myself was a "non certified ma" i was kinda offended when i read this post!!!:flamesonb I DID go to medical assistant school(graduated top in class) and worked in a couple of practices(both of which are associated with major hospitals)when i graduated we had to pass a board type test(just to graduate--it was not a certification)when i went for my 1st job--it WAS NOT required to be "certified" however i had an opportunity to get my certification--so i did. the requirements were an amount of venipuncture sticks and a test. i still work with girls who are not certified--but they can draw blood and handle pts better than those who are certified. for some offices it is not a requirement, and is merely a title for those who have it--it means nothing as far as quality pt care! as far as her misleading statements at first...well...thats another story! so be careful how you judge others---especially when you dont know the whole story . now 10 years later as an MA--i'm a RN nursing student and my experience although not all of it while i was "certified" has been beneficial!

    I do not think anyone is making a deal about whether she is certified or not. The issue is that she represented her self as about 3 different professions before she finally told the truth. Why can you not just be proud of what you do et say that you are a medical assistant. There is nothing that is embarrassing about that profession. MA's work hard in a doctor's office. Why do you need to lie about what you do? I do not think anyone is judging her profession. It is the lying we do not like.
  13. by   katfishLPN
    Quote from fultzymom
    I do not think anyone is making a deal about whether she is certified or not. The issue is that she represented her self as about 3 different professions before she finally told the truth. Why can you not just be proud of what you do et say that you are a medical assistant. There is nothing that is embarrassing about that profession. MA's work hard in a doctor's office. Why do you need to lie about what you do? I do not think anyone is judging her profession. It is the lying we do not like.

    Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!

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