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Apr 22, 2009 11:51 PM

psych CNS vs PMH-NP


what are the main differences between Psych CNSs and Psych-mental health NPs??

I've been reading about both and they seem really similar, to the point where i cant find any major differences?

any ideas of which is better & why, i really want to get into therapy and not just give out RXs

Thx!!!


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from Whispera
Old Apr 23, 2009, 12:26 AM

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I'm a psych CNS. Psych NPs have more training in physical assessment than I did. They tend to do physicals more than I do. Other than that I don't know a difference.
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Old Apr 23, 2009, 09:25 AM

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The roles differ state by state (according to each state's nurse practice act). Here in Virginia, someone certified as a CNS qualifies for reimbursement for therapy (individual, group, and family). A PMHNP had prescriptive privleges, but cannot be reimbursed for theraputic interventions.

The roles, capabilities, and reimbursement regulations differ in different states.
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from Whispera
Old Apr 23, 2009, 09:31 AM

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I'm in Indiana and am reimbursable for therapy and prescribing...
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Old Apr 26, 2009, 03:43 PM
Updated Apr 26, 2009 at 03:43 PM by NY_teach

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I'm also interested in being an advanced practice nurse. In your opinion as a seasoned profession, what should prospective student be looking for in a graduate program?
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from Whispera
Old Apr 26, 2009, 06:29 PM

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1. oodles of clinical time with an advanced practice nurse or doctor as a preceptor
2. courses in advanced physical assessment, pharmacology, diagnosis, and treatment
3. faculty that is there full time, and has been teaching awhile
4. faculty with doctorates or at least certifications in the area they teach
5. the school helps you find clinical opportunities rather than leaving you to find your own (it's fine if you find your own, but can be a problem if you have no opportunity within your own contacts)
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Old Apr 27, 2009, 06:00 PM

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Just wondering, how many years of clinical experience does one have to have before applying for school for psych CNS? I have looked into it but all of the schools say "request more info" and I don't want my email, answering machine, and mailbox filled with school information. Thanks for your help.
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from Whispera
Old Apr 27, 2009, 11:43 PM

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The school I attended "preferred" at least one year of clinical experience before applying for admission to classes. I believe there was one student who started graduate school right after getting her BSN though. She was working while attending grad school. The only way you're going to get the up-to-date information you want, though, is to request that information.
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Old Oct 26, 2009, 09:47 PM

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whispera...I live in the Indiana area and I too am interested in becoming a psychiatric CNS...where did you go to school to receive your masters and what schools do you know of around the indiana, kentucky, ohio, illinois area? were you able to complete most of your classwork and clinicals online/in your area?
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from mona b RN
Old Oct 28, 2009, 10:02 AM

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As others have stated, it really does depend on where you live and what the state's nursing practice act allows you to do. Some state's do not recognize the CNS as an advanced practice nurse which is really a shame. I am hopeful that interest in Magnet may revitalize the role of the CNS and the role will become popular once again.

I work with a CNS and a APN-NP and they essentially do the same things. I am learning that NJ is a great place to be a CNS as they are considered APNs.

Good luck with your decision.
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