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Oct 27, 2009 09:15 AM

Family NP, Ped, NP, Psych NP

by Julz034

Hi everyone,

I have a question. I am still in nursing school, however, trying to get advice from those above me in the ranks =) I am pretty sure that I want to go into Psychiatry and be a NP. However, I have heard conflicting answers to my question. I know I want to work in psych, if I was a NP in peds, could I still do mental health? If I was a family Np, can you still do psych? The only reason I ask is because I don't want to be limited. I do want to learn a variety of things. I know that when you go for your MSN, you better be sure as you're more focused on one specialty and I'm hoping by the time I get there, I will know, if not I will wait until I do know!

I am really into therapy... I'm not big on meds, however, my son who has autism is on meds and I know they make a world of difference, but I also know what goes into a med eval, whew! He's been to so many and had so many med adjustments I think my confidence is low when it comes to prescribing meds, and I just feel like I don't want to "mess someone up" worse than what they already may be. I'm scared! =p I hope I will get over that, and I know I will, and even as a family NP I'm gonna have to prescribe. I know I will learn what I need in school, It's just you hear so many stories about anti-psychotics and depression meds, etc., it can be intimidating, I think. Anyway, off track here. Which would you suggest I do if I want to work with pediatric psychiatry patients? If I go the mental health route, how much therapy time do you actually get with the patient? I read on here you don't usually do therpay as a psych NP, and I want to be able to have that option!

Thanks everyone!


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Old Oct 28, 2009, 02:19 AM

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PNPs and FNPs often receive some discussion in their programs about mental health issues and treatment however it is generally considered outside their scope of practice to treat mental illness independently. It is important for primary care NPs to be able to recognize signs of mental illness in order to make appropriate referals and to have some familiarity with treatment of mental disorders (both psychotherapy and pharmacotherapy) since they will inevitable have clients either in therapy or on meds. If your goal is to be a mental health provider, however, you should really be trained as a mental health provider. In nursing that would mean either a PMHCNS or PMHNP. As to the differences between the two, it really all depends on your state's definition of the roles, the practice you eventually work in, and the program you were trained in. For example, in some states CNSs cannot prescribe medications but they can in others whereas NPs usually can prescribe but cannot provide psychotherapy. Some practices will hire an NP to basically only do med checks while others will utilize the whole scope of practice. Some training programs differ in they preparation one receives based on the role (CNS or NP). You mentioned apprehension about prescribing psych meds but also realize that it might be helpful and necessary. It your fear comes more from a lack of experience, obviously that's something that can be alleviated with training and experience. It would not hurt to be trained on prescribing medication but not necessarily make that part of your practice. My advice: look into the state(s) you think you'd like to practice in and how they define and regulate NPs and CNSs. Then talk to some mental health providers or look at job descriptions to get a sense of how the practice environment is for each role (sometimes they are interchangeable and sometimes they are night and day). Finally, with a better sense of what your options would look like upon graduation, start evaluating programs on how they fit with your ideal practice allowing some wiggle room for future changes. Good luck!
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Old Oct 28, 2009, 03:13 AM

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I'm pretty sure it's within the scope of practice of primary care nurse practitioners to treat uncomplicated mental illness (like non-refractory depression and anxiety).
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from Julz034
Old Oct 29, 2009, 01:55 PM

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Thanks everyone!

I will start checking the two out a little more in my area. I might even call the colleges and ask, or different facilities in the area.

I do plan on going into the more sever illnesses, Bi-polar, Autism, etc. So, I figured I'd definitely need the psych NP. I saw another girl ask a sort of similar question and thought she'd need psych but figured I should ask for me as well!

Thanks again!
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