Yes, another question about CRNA pay? - Page 3

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  1. Jul 13, '11 by
    Working in a salried position with the occasional overtime shift paid on an hourly basis, it is quite easy to make 180K gross...and , unless you are a contract worker paid on a 1099 you wont be paying your own malpractice insurance... even then it is uncommon.

    If you are sole provider in a hospital with a contract for anesthesia services... and you bill for services, expect to make north of 200K.. at which point the 12 to 14K liability insurance becomes less of a problem....BUT in that situation you pay quarterly income, SS ANd payroll taxes.

    That being said.. the job is rewarding enough I would actually do it for what I was paid as an ICU nurse.
  2. Mar 8, '12 by
    Quote from shandsburnRN-CRNA
    Pay definately varies with location like with anything else, so do benefit packages. I work in a relatively rural hospital as a CRNA, my net income for the year is already over $100,000 and the group I work for pays my malpractice/healthcare insurance, I'm a W2 employee through a private anesthesia group that has a contract with the hospital in which I practice. In our group we have contracted CRNA's that are self employeed but contract through the group I work for, they make more $$ gross but are responsible for their own malpractice and healthcare insurance.

    A few months ago, gaswork had a listing for Minnesota that would pay to relocate, paid malpractice and healthcare and was starting at $250,000....2 year contract.
    I read in a forum post that you graduated from barry and attended their ocala/gainesville site. can you provide some insight on your experience. if you had to do it again which site would you choose? i tied to pm you but there was an error. thanks!
  3. Mar 12, '12 by
    Off topic but I work in California and I have been a nurse for 10 years and i made 184000(yes you heard that right!) last year working 4 twelves a week. Nurses in the rest of the country get ripped off! You guys need to do something about your wages!
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    Mar 12, '12 by
    Quote from SFnurse32
    Off topic but I work in California and I have been a nurse for 10 years and i made 184000(yes you heard that right!) last year working 4 twelves a week. Nurses in the rest of the country get ripped off! You guys need to do something about your wages!
    IMO...You guys in California need to get a lower cost of living. You should also realize salaries like that are one of the reasons that healthcare costs are now at unsustainable levels.
  5. Jan 2 by
    Quote from shandsburnRN-CRNA
    Pay definately varies with location like with anything else, so do benefit packages. I work in a relatively rural hospital as a CRNA, my net income for the year is already over $100,000 and the group I work for pays my malpractice/healthcare insurance, I'm a W2 employee through a private anesthesia group that has a contract with the hospital in which I practice. In our group we have contracted CRNA's that are self employeed but contract through the group I work for, they make more $$ gross but are responsible for their own malpractice and healthcare insurance.

    A few months ago, gaswork had a listing for Minnesota that would pay to relocate, paid malpractice and healthcare and was starting at $250,000....2 year contract.

    I'm not a CRNA either, but I saw a listing for one in MN 3-4 years ago that was paying $200K/yr for 6 months of work.
  6. Jan 3 by
    I don't think salaries have anything to do with upcoming healthcare crisis...
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    Jan 3 by
    Quote from bibibi
    I don't think salaries have anything to do with upcoming healthcare crisis...
    How do you figure that? Salaries are usually a hospitals biggest expense. This is just a plain fact. It is one of the main reasons that healthcare tourism exists and why other countries can provide similar services much cheaper.
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  8. Jan 3 by
    Healthcare costs are up because of other expenses and ridiculous fees that hospitals and some providers charge... How much an appendectomy would cost you out of pocket? What part of that cost is salary?
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    Jan 3 by
    Quote from bibibi
    Healthcare costs are up because of other expenses and ridiculous fees that hospitals and some providers charge... How much an appendectomy would cost you out of pocket? What part of that cost is salary?
    The cost alone for OR time is 30-120+ dollars per minute depending in the procedure. That does not include the preop or postop care. So an appendectomy that required no preop or postop care would be approximately 900-1800 dollars just to cover costs, but the surgeons costs also cover the preop and postop care. What a provider bills is rarely what is paid. It is big game between insurance companies, healthcare providers, and hospitals/clinics. Those hospital charges are what pay nurses and the ancillary staff salaries...
  10. Jan 3 by
    900-1800 cost plus profit, which could be double that (which is great compared to other industries) is fair I think. Although, I still want to know what part of that 30-120 per minute is actually spent on salaries. You have 2 OR techs making 12-15 an hour, Anesthesia making 100-200 an hour, OR nurse making 25-30 an hour, and the surgeon. If you add everyone's salary it is 4 dollars a minute maximum (not including the surgeon). So how do you justify that 30-120 a minute charge being spent mostly on salaries. Most of it is equipment, markups that are not seen in any other industry, and others costs...

    And I agree with you, the payment system we have right now is unacceptable. It is unsustainable in the long run.