What's going to keep you motivated???? - page 4

I start CRNA school this August at ODU and I know it's going to be all that everyone says and more, but what is the one thing that will keep you motivated when the going gets tougher than tough. I... Read More

  1. by   Ava's mom
    Originally Posted by SRNACHIC

    You all crack me up. It's not that serious. I guess we can all say what motivates us to become CRNA's is that same thing that motivates us from day to day. Family, fortune, future, and a little bit of fame and when it's all said and done, we want to look back and say that we made a differance.
    I second that amen!!!!!

    Ava's Mom
  2. by   u-r-sleeepy
    I guess when I thought about it some more - I realized we're talking about "ethics and values" to some degree. What motivates one may not be the strongest motivator for others. Thus, "to each their own" does apply.

    I am clearly one who was not "overly motivated by $$$$ alone". Perhaps others lean more that way, but I think that's OK too. There SHOULD be substantial reward to anyone willing to take the risk of pursuiing NA school just as we shouldn't have physicians being paid $40k/yr mandated by some future socialized healthcare system. Risk should lead to reward - at least in a capitalist economy.

    Also, age will no doubt play a difference in what exactly is "valued" and will "motivate" us. WntrMute2 (Dave) has his pants - I have my watch. Yahoo! Of course, it might be interesting to see where Dave & I are at financially in say... 3 - 5 years from now! Hehehehehe!!! Only time will tell....

    I believe the future looks extremely bright for CRNAs for the next 20 years at least. I don't think the A$A and their tragic little AAs will "win" in their efforts to drive CRNAs to the back woods of this country. Figure out whatever motivates you to get thru the program - I predict it WILL be worth it to each one of you!

    Sleeepy
  3. by   melrey11
    My motivation is summed up with one phrase that I will NEVER have to see or hear again......

    "GOLYTELY TILL CLEAR."

    nuff said. :chuckle :chuckle
  4. by   FNP2B
    i am trying to find someone to answer my post....ive been roaming around different threads asking the same question...on a lpn posting a new lpn grad said they would be making 42k out of the gates .....someone needs to wake this lpn up...or wake me up:stone


    [font='times new roman']"patience is a virtue, yes, and good things come to those who wait, but only things left behind by those who hustle"

    [font='times new roman'][font='times new roman']"shoot for the moon; even if you miss you will land among the stars"
  5. by   ZAHMAN
    Quote from melrey11
    My motivation is summed up with one phrase that I will NEVER have to see or hear again......

    "GOLYTELY TILL CLEAR."

    nuff said. :chuckle :chuckle

    "GOLYTELY", now there is an oxymorone. The label should read "TREADLYTLY".

    ZAHMAN
  6. by   Trauma Tom
    i believe these numbers may be possible for an lpn, however i would believe the numbers more after a year out of school. i just started crna school and prior to starting worked at a level i trauma center, urban teaching hospital in a short staffed sicu that recently changed their pay scale. they were offering rn's with a minimum of one year of service the option of staff no benefits at $27.00 per hour. at two years it was $30.00 per hour and if you had three years of service in multiple areas the rate was $$33.00 per hour. at the $33.00 rate you had to be willing to float anywhere you were needed in the hospital. i was picking up 48 hours a week and working weekend option. at 48 hours a week, 50 weeks a year my base was $70,200. shift diff and weekend pay was an additional $3.00 per hour at $6100.00 for fifty weeks. and weekend option paid $3,000 per quarter for working 12 out of 13 weekends. my hospital also paid me tuition reimbursement while working on my bsn at $1600.00 per semester. do the math and you come up with total annual compensation of $93,100.00. if you are willing to work nights with 8 more hours of shift diff per shift and weekend bonus of $4500.00 for nights and it would be $107,510 per year. this hospital has eliminated agency nurses and is offering close to the same rate as agency, but is saving agency fees. in critical care areas, icu's, stepdown units and er they are short staffed so overtime shifts are available for those who want them. even with these shotages i was only tripled in 1 out of every 4 to 5 shifts. i know nurses on that unit who were working 6 nights a week. i also know this hospital offered its area clerks and lpn's and cna's and pct's weekend options as well, however i do not know about staff with no benefit options for them. so i do think those numbers for an lpn are possible. prior to the new ceo coming on board this same hospital was contracting with crna's and aa's at $85.00 per hour for nights or weekends. as far as i know those positions are being reduced to try and get a handle on their costs, however due to shortage of staff, they occasionally have to pay those prices. in addition, this hospital utilizes aa's for the majority of their anesthetists. many of them have been their for 15 to 20 years. i have heard their compensation runs $60.00 with benefits. with overtime available at $90.00 an hour they can earn over $160,000.00 a year working 48 hours a week. i personally know of one aa, as a new graduate who picks up as much overtime as they will allow him who will make $140,000 his first year including his signing bonus. i am seriously considering returning their after school as it is a disproportionate hospital so i am eligble for 60% debt repayment for student loans for a 2 year commitment and 80% for a three year commitment.

    Quote from fnp2b
    i am trying to find someone to answer my post....ive been roaming around different threads asking the same question...on a lpn posting a new lpn grad said they would be making 42k out of the gates .....someone needs to wake this lpn up...or wake me up:stone


    [font='times new roman']"patience is a virtue, yes, and good things come to those who wait, but only things left behind by those who hustle"

    [font='times new roman'][font='times new roman']"shoot for the moon; even if you miss you will land among the stars"
  7. by   sonessrna
    Quote from SRNACHIC
    I start CRNA school this August at ODU and I know it's going to be all that everyone says and more, but what is the one thing that will keep you motivated when the going gets tougher than tough. I have a pitcure of a nice big house that I want with the mega master bedroom and bath, the big body benz...and vacations in the carribean, and college fund for my kids, shopping, shopping, and shopping....you all get the pitcure right? Oh yeah, and autonomy and no more but wiping or denture cleaning! What's the one thing for you that will make it all worth it?:roll
    There are many things motivating me. I WANT to do this!! When I put myself up to a challenge..there is no quitting!! Secondl.y, I LOVE anesthesia and I have never met a CRNA that did not love their job. That in itself motivates me. The money will be nice... but I'm a simple girl and I never expect to have a huge house or a fancy car. I just want my kids to have more than I did. I want to love my job...that's the motivation!!!:hatparty:
  8. by   CougRN
    motivation. sometimes i think that it is respect and appreciation for the work i put in to becoming a CRNA. then i read these posts by AA's and MDA's and i think that i will never earn any respect because to them i'm still "just a Nurse". so may respect isn't a good motivation. i think maybe then my motivation comes from not failing. no matter what the doctor's say i have worked hard to get to where i am. that is an SRNA. so my motivation is to finish what i have started and to learn as much as i can. i'm excited to become a CRNA and to learn as much as i can. i want to deliver the best care to my patients and to make their surgical experience a good experience. having worked in pacu i know what patients expect. and i hope to deliver this to them. i'm proud of my nursing routes. may I be a great practioner in the future.
  9. by   are-in
    Regarding two individuals that I know, it is somewhat bothersome to me when I hear of others wanting to go to CRNA school and in the same breath, they immediately talk about salaries. I fully understand that money is one of the primary reasons that we work...but not the only reason. I posed a similar question (as above) to two individuals who I overheard at work when they decided to persue NA (amusingly, they were surfing through salaries.com at the time). I asked them if they would continue to pursue NA school if a bill was passed tomorrow that capped CRNA salaries at 75k/yr. Of course the response was "no." It was really annoying for me, who has held CRNA school as a long-term goal for about 5 years, to watch someone draw from a "proverbial career hat" in such a manner. I guess that type of person will have to put their money where their mouth is should they get into a program.:chuckle
    Last edit by are-in on Jun 16, '04
  10. by   Athlein1
    sometimes i think that it is respect and appreciation for the work i put in to becoming a CRNA. then i read these posts by AA's and MDA's and i think that i will never earn any respect because to them i'm still "just a Nurse". so may respect isn't a good motivation
    Seems to me that most AAs and anesthesiologists respect the education, knowledge base, and work ethics of the vast majority of CRNAs. In contrast, I have only met a few (well, one, actually, but then again I don't exactly ask every anesthesiologist I work with about it) that believe that CRNAs should practice independently. Does that translate to a lack of respect? I don't know...
  11. by   loisane
    Quote from Athlein1
    I have only met a few (well, one, actually, but then again I don't exactly ask every anesthesiologist I work with about it) that believe that CRNAs should practice independently. Does that translate to a lack of respect? I don't know...
    What a great question, I find it EXTREMELY interesting.

    No, it really isn't lack of respect. But at the same time, isn't that what we want from them-acknowledgment of our compentency (as we define it, of course)? So it does have alot to do with our professional relationships.

    Nursing has the right to define its own professional boundaries. Just as medicine has the right to define theirs. Neither can define the other. Medicine cannot place boundaries on nursing. But to the same extent, we cannot make them accept our defintion of ourselves. Just saying we believe in us, doesn't make them believe in us to the same extent. So, we are left with ignoring their opinion, or finding ways to influence it.

    I don't have the anwer, but it is something to which I give a great deal of effort, thought, research, etc. I like your question, it gives me another take on this subject. Thanks for voicing it!

    loisane crna
  12. by   alansmith52
    I just want to address some of the major points on this thread and say how I feal.
    1. THE MONEY ISSUE: you know the truth is money motivates us to do most everything. the reason we go to school for anything is to earn a living. I don't see any reasone to fault anyone for trying to earn a better living. espcially if there honest about it. there is another tragic truth here. CRNA's have gotten to where they are becuse there are people that are money minded. If you don't care what your getting paid than you'll just continue to take it in the shorts and the managment will say " your reward is getting to care" I can't knock that. but I'd like to.
    2. the reason I wanted to do this in the first place is due to an experince I remeber from my childhood years. I had my a T&A and was very fearful (crying) the MDA aleaved my fears like a champ and I have wanted to do the same for others since then.
    3. security. I don't know what tommorw will bring but I want to be ready for it and that means making money to me. I want my childrent to have it better than I did. I want to help them through college and I never want to fight with my spouse about money like my parents did. (I understand that having money isn't the whole answer to that one but its a good start)
    4. this last year whenever I wanted to go ouside in the spring rather than study I was caught up in a memory. I was on night shift and this poor old man had some kind of anal sepage going on. I was working on the floor in this memory. and I cleaned his A%# 25 times in one night. A week later I got bells palsy... (who knows). CPM off and on and off and on with the TKA. I cringed at the thought of having to go back.
    5. to show my 7th grade english teacher that even though I didn't sit in her blessed "honor row" and I couldn't diagram A sentence to save my life that I have worth and she can kiss my A&#. to this day I can't get over the contempt for that woman.
  13. by   SRNACHIC
    Quote from are-in
    Regarding two individuals that I know, it is somewhat bothersome to me when I hear of others wanting to go to CRNA school and in the same breath, they immediately talk about salaries. I fully understand that money is one of the primary reasons that we work...but not the only reason. I posed a similar question (as above) to two individuals who I overheard at work when they decided to persue NA (amusingly, they were surfing through salaries.com at the time). I asked them if they would continue to pursue NA school if a bill was passed tomorrow that capped CRNA salaries at 75k/yr. Of course the response was "no." It was really annoying for me, who has held CRNA school as a long-term goal for about 5 years, to watch someone draw from a "proverbial career hat" in such a manner. I guess that type of person will have to put their money where their mouth is should they get into a program.:chuckle
    I am amazed at your statement. Why should a law be passed to cap CRNA salaries at 75k? Should a law be passed to cap MDA salaries at 150k? Medicare doesn't differentiate, and there is no differance in reimbursement for cases done by a CRNA or a MDA, so why should any salary be capped?

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