My CRNA friends do illegal drugs - page 12

Two of my friends who are CRNA's take recreational ecstasy almost every weekend. They will take it on Saturday night...stay up all night....and then try to sleep it off on Sunday. When Monday... Read More

  1. by   romie
    I am not sure if I have the technical know-how to create a link, but here is a try:

    http://www.maps.org/media/hmma/lifemagazine8.85.pdf

    I've also found that if you enter 1985 MDMA DEA ban into google, you will get alot of good results.

    It is true that the FDA never did get around approving it, so it is easy to misinterpret the lack of FDA approval to equal illegality. Of course all of this history background doesn't change the issue in this thread, but it is interesting stuff.
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  3. by   NRSKarenRN
    Since the OP has not returned to furture add to discussion/outcome and professional advice provided, closing thread in 24 hrs.
  4. by   dfk
    Quote from NRSKarenRN
    Since the OP has not returned to furture add to discussion/outcome and professional advice provided, closing thread in 24 hrs.
    finally...
    thank you!
  5. by   Alpha13
    Wait! this thread is missing a good ending line! Give me a sec...

    One of life's greater ironies can be witnessed on the sidelines of a pill debate. It seems that those people who so adamantly oppose drugs are the very ones who would most benefit from them.

    -Alpha13
    And with that I declare this thread complete.
  6. by   DrugReptoNurse
    Update

    Let me answer a few questions first.

    #1 I do not use ecstacy

    #2 I have witnessed the two CRNA's I mentioned using the drug on multiple occassions

    #3 I do not condone the use of any illegal substance at any time

    I have spoken to both of them about this issue. They are convinced they do not have a problem. Their reasoning lies in that they don't have to "have" the drug every weekend and just do it for fun. They claim no addiciton and that may very well be the case.

    These two CRNA's do not have a supervisor. As I had stated previously they both work on a contract basis with a variety of surgeons in Southern California.

    I have decided to no longer associate myself with the two women in question. I have told them why. I regret losing their friendship but I can not in good concious be a friend of a CRNA who abuses illegal drugs and is still practicing anesthesia.

    I have chosen not to report them to the California Board of Nursing. Although I have witnessed them abusing ecstasy I have not witnessed them being impaired on the job. I followed both of them for a few days and during that time they seemed to be very professional.

    I do not have proof that they are abusing drugs. I have witnessed it myself but I can not document the abuse via photographs, videos etc.

    I have also chosen not to report them as I now live in another part of the country while I attend school. I do not wish to get into any legal skirmishes....period.

    I am not the only student nurse or nurse or CRNA who knows about the abuse. I am probably the only one who talks about it on allnurses.com
  7. by   NRSKarenRN
    ca bon regs:

    am i mandated to report a nurse whom i suspect is diverting drugs or using drugs?
    filing a complaint is not mandatory; however, it is critical to ensure safe quality care in california. to learn more about filing a complaint, please refer to the information contained on this website under the enforcement program.


    for general information on this program, click:
    what is the diversion program?

    for answers to the frequently asked questions regarding the diversion program, click:
    diversion frequently asked questions
    alabama:

    standards of nursing practice

    mandatory reporting:
    alabama board of nursing administrative code, chapter 610-x-6-.02(10) states, the registered nurse and licensed practical nurse shall accept individual responsibility and accountability for timely reporting of illegal, substandard, unethical, unsafe, or incompetent nursing practice directly to the board of nursing...


    pa:


    section 14. refusal, suspension or revocation of licenses.--(a) the board may refuse, suspend or revoke any license in any case where the board shall find that:
    (1) the licensee is on repeated occasions negligent or incompetent in the practice of professional nursing or dietetics-nutrition.

    (2) the licensee is unable to practice professional nursing with reasonable skill and safety to patients by reason of mental or physical illness or condition or physiological or psychological dependence upon alcohol, hallucinogenic or narcotic drugs or other drugs which tend to impair judgment or coordination, so long as such dependence shall continue. in enforcing this clause (2), the board shall, upon probable cause, have authority to compel a licensee to submit to a mental or physical examination as designated by it...
    (8) the licensee possessed, used, acquired or distributed a controlled substance or caution legend drug for other than an acceptable medical purpose...



    section 14.1. impaired professionals program
    http://www.dos.state.pa.us/bpoa/lib/...d/nurseact.pdf



    from pa bon winter 1004 newsletter:

    both the professional nursing law and the practical nurse law (practice acts) contain the requirement that any hospital or health care facility, peer or colleague who has substantial evidence that:
    1. a licensee has an active addictive disease for which he or she is not receiving treatment
    2. a licensee is diverting a controlled substance or
    3. a licensee is mentally or physically incompetent to carry out the duties of his or her license must report these facts to the board.
    (see 63 p.s. 224.1(f) and 63 p.s. 666.2)
    http://www.dos.state.pa.us/bpoa/lib/...nurse_2004.pdf






    persons have been prevented from obtaining a nursing license/license revoked when it was found that they knew/witnessed rn abusing illegal substances. don't let that happen to you.

    Last edit by NRSKarenRN on Oct 21, '06

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