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No. 30
from GmanRN
Old Aug 06, 2007, 10:23 PM

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Its the fact that word doctor in a hospital defines a role in the patients provision of care. If a non medical doctor walks up to a patient and introduces themselves as Dr so n so then more than likely that patient will believe them to be a Medical Dr.

It has nothing to do with nurse bashing. lol. Wow. Nothing of the sort. It's all about the patient. That's exactly where our perspectives and interest should lie. Not a selfish need for respect and a title.
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No. 31
Old Aug 06, 2007, 11:55 PM

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To each their own......
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No. 32
from DIGNOUT
Old Aug 07, 2007, 09:53 PM

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Though I'm quite sure this debate will continue, I'll cash in my two cents...

The goal of the DNAP is to improve patient safety and the provision of effective anesthesia, correct? Correct. Rather than focusing on whether or not the physician is offended or we are misrepresenting ourselves, let's go back to the patient. We suppose patients would be confused that "doctor" implies "physician." We suppose. Are we underestimating our patients' abilities to accept and synthesize change? Perhaps. Is this an opportunity to educate both patients and HCPs that nurses are doctors and doctors are doctors and scientists are doctors? Sure...
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No. 33
from allibear
Old Aug 07, 2007, 11:11 PM

Default comic relief...anyone?...anyone?
If the debate here is about calling CRNAs "Doctor" based on the degree, I'm fine without that higher level of education and just being referred to as "Master"...yes, that has a nice ring to it













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No. 34
Old Aug 07, 2007, 11:12 PM

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Typically it's an online degree, with the exception of four very intense classroom weeks a year. There is a significant emphasis on health policy. Check it out!
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No. 35
Old Aug 08, 2007, 09:04 AM

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i remember how enraged nurses became when a medical student who was also a phd answered a page. a page! (Not, Hi Mrs. Jones, I'm Dr. Smith and will taking care of you today) with 'doctor.'

ah, hypocrisy.
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No. 36
from proclivity
Old Aug 08, 2007, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by allibear View Post
If the debate here is about calling CRNAs "Doctor" based on the degree, I'm fine without that higher level of education and just being referred to as "Master"...yes, that has a nice ring to it







good one....funny stuff.
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No. 37
from CrufflerJJ
Old Aug 09, 2007, 07:35 AM

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[quote=allibear;2340000]If the debate here is about calling CRNAs "Doctor" based on the degree, I'm fine without that higher level of education and just being referred to as "Master"...yes, that has a nice ring to it
/quote]

Especially if it's pronounced in a pseudo-Brit accent "Moh-stuh", as done by Igor ("Eyegore") in Young Dr. Frankenstein.
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No. 38
from dfk
Old Aug 10, 2007, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DIGNOUT View Post
Though I'm quite sure this debate will continue, I'll cash in my two cents...

The goal of the DNAP is to improve patient safety and the provision of effective anesthesia, correct? Correct. Rather than focusing on whether or not the physician is offended or we are misrepresenting ourselves, let's go back to the patient. We suppose patients would be confused that "doctor" implies "physician." We suppose. Are we underestimating our patients' abilities to accept and synthesize change? Perhaps. Is this an opportunity to educate both patients and HCPs that nurses are doctors and doctors are doctors and scientists are doctors? Sure...
i don't believe the OP mentioned DNAP.
and they (DNP and DNAP) are not the same degree.
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No. 39
from DIGNOUT
Old Aug 13, 2007, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dfk View Post
i don't believe the OP mentioned DNAP.
and they (DNP and DNAP) are not the same degree.
dfk... I appreciate your hair-splitting. You are correct- no mention of the DNAP by the OP... and yes, the DNAP is very different. As a matter of fact, it's so new, no one has one yet... Such attention to detail must make you quite adept in the OR.

However, the DNP, PhD, and DNAP have been used in tandem and interchangeably throughout these boards, though erroneously (as you pointed out). Because the DNAP is the new "rage" and specific to nurse anesthesia, and the OP was discussing degrees replacing degrees as a matter of requisite, one would surmise the DNAP would be the appropriate "replacement" for the MSNA/MSN/MS/MSHA or whatever other degree one earns with entry into nurse anesthesia practice. I take no side as to whether Master's preparation should be replaced for entry into practice...so we'll nip that before you can offer a rebuttle.

And, while we're splitting hairs... what I said is applicable to whatever doctorate is earned, correct? Cut out DNAP, and glue in whatever doctorate you might like or may think is most applicable to the OP. So, what's your beef?
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