CRNA Threat

[samirish]

I read the following post on a student doctor's forum:

"Agreed. CRNA's and nurses in general aren't the smartest group of people out there.

The CRNA backlash has already begun. In response to CRNA's push for autonomy, anesthesiologists are supporting AA's and being careful how they train SNRA's. Long-term, both are very bad for the future of CRNA's. CRNA's had it pretty good for a while but a few militant of them became greedy and wanted more. I think most CRNA's will regret what a few have done to their profession.

Once more anesthesia automation enters the OR, I think the point of autonomy will be less and less important because the team model will prevail in that setting.

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Im wondering, what does this mean? What are the ramifications to CRNA's based on this post, if what he says is in fact true?

This post was dated Nov.2010

[FCMike11, BSN]

2000 hours per year (40 hrs x 50 wks, you do the math). a 5 yr rn would thus have 10,000+ hrs real world experience. my own are well over 30,000.

not sure why this is every persons arguement you can not always count years as an rn clinical experience. reason being there are nursing students who are perputual with their education and do not intend to work until they are finished with their np.

additionally the location an rn works isnt not always the same as what they go into, as well you are not functioning at the level as a practicioner. so i still don't consider that relevant, there are many pa's who were previous rn's, paramedics etc and they don't try to loop in previous clinical exposure as their graduate degree "clinical hours".

[nomadcrna, DNP, CRNA, NP]

Become a NP, understanding will come.

[SHGR, MSN, RN, CNS]

Over the last 13 years of working in both the ER and ICU, I've worked side by side with both PA's and NP's. Yes, there are good ones and bad ones. But in my experience the PA's were more confident and proficient in their practice. Therefore, this reflects the education they received. This is my observation.

This is poor logic. Review your notes from research or stats class. Correlation does not imply causation.

[nomadcrna, DNP, CRNA, NP]

Excellent post.

[Tinabeanrn]

I would like to add that there are medical schools online as well. I have worked in the ICU with residents that completed medical school online...so how is NP schools being online a slap in the face to medicine??

[FCMike11, BSN]

I would like to add that there are medical schools online as well. I have worked in the ICU with residents that completed medical school online...so how is NP schools being online a slap in the face to medicine??

You have not worked with any residents that did medical school in the US online. You may work with those who chose not to go to lecture, but view it recorded via their school. Its pretty common knowledge that lecture attendance isnt required for lots of medical schools.I guarantee you though he took his tests at his medical school, and it was not an "online program".

[Tinabeanrn]

Yes it was online. And is online. 100% online. And they do their residency in the U.S. and practice in the U.S. Its a school that is not in the U.S. but they still practice in the U.S.

[Tinabeanrn]

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[FCMike11, BSN]

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Lol this is your example....handful of states that do not accept online education CA, TX, NY, Conn, GA, Ark, ND, Oregon, KA, FL. An i am sure there is more. When i say they dont accept this education, means you cant practice/licensed in these states.Sketchy school to say the least, these pop up everywhere. Have any real examples?

[wtbcrna, MSN, DNP, CRNA]

Okay, this thread is supposed to be about CRNAs not NPs or online MD training. Can we got back to the original topic or at least start another thread..?

[FCMike11, BSN]

Okay, this thread is supposed to be about CRNAs not NPs or online MD training. Can we got back to the original topic or at least start another thread..?

Yeah you are right, im guilty of thread hijack.Dont think start another thread an continue to beat the dead horse haha.

[Tinabeanrn]

It is a real example when the person is practicing as a MD in the US. Can't get any more real than that. And yes, lets get back to the issue. I was just replying to a post about NP online schools. There are many online medical schools. Just saying.