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No. 20
from darne20
Old Aug 20, 2009, 09:24 AM

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thanks-redfaced and sweating was an accurate description, but the pain was preferable to getting so-called "conscious sedation" that I didn't consent to. Some patients like propofol; I hate it. I did my Ph.D. thesis on propofol, so I know a little about it...it's the creepiest most dysphoric sensation that I can imagine.........administered by someone whom you trust is one thing; when they try to administer a drug that you do not consent to-that's another...................
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No. 21
from TXCRNA
Old Aug 20, 2009, 03:12 PM

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Sounds like your surgery was stressful to say the least. Im sure you're glad it is behind you. Im glad your faith in CRNAs has been restored as well, although sounds like her job was easy since you didnt want any meds. As I told you, I recently had c-section. I had a spinal & not a drop of any sedation...it was stressful beyond words(although my spinal worked great). So...I understand your experience. Whenever I do a block I make sure the pt understands that it could fail or wear of prematurely thus making a general anesthetic neccassary. I explain that I cant guarantee no general anesthesia if this were to occur mid-procedure. There are also complications from the local anesthetic that rarely occur, which Im sure you're aware of, that require possible intubation, medication, etc.. So I would hesitate to write on the consent no sedation/general, but barring that, I would abide by your wishes if I was doing your case (although I would've prob tried to talk you out of it. LOL).
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No. 22
from MoLee228
Old Aug 20, 2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by darne20 View Post
Thanks for the replies. If the surgeon agrees that the anesthesia will be performed by an anesthesia MD (because of patient request), is this a problem if agreed to in advance?
Interestingly, I had an anesthesia fellow say to me that if he had to choose who did his anesthesia (if he was having surgery) he would always choose a CRNA over an MD. This is because we are at a large teaching hospital, and 9/10 MDs providing anesthesia are residents. They are still learning anesthesia, whereas a CRNA has mastered it. Interesting, don't you think?
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No. 23
from darne20
Old Nov 07, 2009, 06:17 PM

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I wanted to reply to this old thread because I just got back from having my second ulnar nerve/trans CTR done and this time I was able to have the CRNA/MDA, no sedation, Bier Block only issues settled in advance. For the first operation, the MDA had a total hissy-fit when I told him that I didn't want sedation or GA and put this on the consent (my experience is that a verbal agreement means little); so my surgeon suggested skipping the MDA and going with the CRNA. Unlike the MDA, the CRNA had read my chart in advance and knew what I wanted and didn't want (sedation makes these procedures intolerable for me)......and we didn't have to argue about it, which would have raised my BP and made the block less effective. I though that the procedure went well; the CRNA mentioned that I must be uncomfortable since I was all sweaty, but that was by choice. In the RR, the surgeon ordered Toradol and before I could object, the CRNA said quite loudly: "no, he's not kidding about his allergies; the last time he got Toradol he ended up in the ER with a GI bleed and got IV H2-blockers"....I like that CRNA;I'm sending her a letter of appreciation, at least, even though she thinks that I'm nuts for declining the sedation.
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No. 24
Old Nov 08, 2009, 06:17 AM

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I am glad that your procedure went well for you, and I am equally pleased that you had a good CRNA taking care of you, I hope that in the future that you will remember that the MD does not mean better anesthesia and that you will tell all of your friends this as well.
Thank you very much for relating this story.
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