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Aug 24, 2005 09:31 PM

CRNA -> MD ?

by user69

How many CRNA grads end up going for the full blown MDA? Does anyone know?

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No. 1
from SproutRN
Old Aug 24, 2005, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by user69
How many CRNA grads end up going for the full blown MDA? Does anyone know?
Don't know any stats. but I work with an MDA who took this route....started
as ADN and progressed to MDA.
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No. 2
Old Aug 24, 2005, 10:34 PM

I'm not sure that these stats exist.

If you are considering one of these careers, I would advise you to choose one, and pursue it exclusively.

If you are just wondering how many CRNAs become MDAs out of curiosity, I'm not sure what to tell you. I know that some people have gone this route, but I don't think that a lot of people are doing this - very costly, very time consuming.

Maybe I'll do some investigating tomorrow after work if nobody comes up with anything by then. (I'm thinking that real numbers will be hard to find, though.)

I'd be interested in knowing how many MDs were RNs first also.
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No. 3
from RenalOncRN
Old Aug 24, 2005, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by user69
How many CRNA grads end up going for the full blown MDA? Does anyone know?
You know I am in Nursing school with a girl who wants to become a CRNA first and than go for a MD. We had done some research together and called the Baylor University of Medicine. They said that they do not give credit on any nursing classes we took . She would have to do all pre-med and med school with the brand new students. The only classes they would give her credit for are the basic classes in English, History and that stuff. The even said she had to take A&P again because last time she took it was in 2003. So to me that is just waisted time. I would suggest not to go the CRNA to MD route because you will spend 7 years to be a CRNA (5 yrs. BSN+2 yrs.CRNA) and then they will make you do 4 yrs. of Pre Med and 4 yrs. of Med school. That is just to much waisted time. You will be in school for 15 years. I would not recommend that to anyone, especially if you have a family. Good Luck.
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No. 4
from SMK1
Old Aug 24, 2005, 11:45 PM

pick medicine or nursing from the beginning or you will end up with an extra 100k of student loans and around 15-20 years of your life gone.

CRNA schooling= 7-8 yrs
BSN 4yrs, at least 1 yr ICU experience and some places will not hire a new grad into ICU so another year can realistically be tacked on here. CRNA school another 2 yrs for the masters degree.

MDA= 7-10 yrs (depends)
4 yrs of med school 3-4 years internship not to mention that if you didn't complete all of the premed requirements you will most likely have to do a year of postbac sciences.

That is a lot of time and a lot money spent and income generating years lost. Just something to think about.
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No. 5
from apaisRN
Old Aug 25, 2005, 12:09 AM

I don't think many people pursue this path on purpose. It's clearly not the logical choice. But it's not uncommon to realize you aren't doing what you want to be doing, after being educated for a specific role.
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No. 6
from Kiwi
Old Aug 25, 2005, 07:14 AM

I think Tenesma spoke of a couple people who made that transition. Not sure if s/he posts here anymore, or if stats like that are available.
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No. 7
from sunnyjohn
Old Aug 25, 2005, 08:36 AM

Pick one or the other. I'm sure folks have done it, but not intentionally. It would be very time consuming, not to mention expensive.

Med school would not give you "advanced standing" based on your previous nursing coursework. Of course the Organic Chem, Physics , Math and Bio classes you take would prepare you for the MCAT and most likely fulfill your pre-med req. You would also have a clinical leg up on your med school classmates who had never seen the inside of a hospital.

Still, pick one. Maximize your time and resources.
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No. 8
from davvid2700
Old Aug 25, 2005, 04:02 PM

i dont think one year of organic ch emistry one year of general chem and one year of physicis is required for crnas. so this would have to be fulfilled prior to matriculation in med school and that could be a pain
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No. 9
from Papadoc
Old Aug 25, 2005, 07:52 PM

Default ....
I have never thought about becoming CRNA before, but know some ppl who are. I have a graduate degree in acupuncture, and one of my classmates was a CRNA practicing in CT, mostly outpatient plastic surgery. She seemed to be happy in general, but anesthesia turf wars between CRNAs and M.D.(A)s were killing her, at least emotionally. But some things to consider are generally no matter how high you aim now by the time you get there, it may not necessarily be the thing you'd expected it to be. I just completed 2 semesters of med school (in the Caribbean), and for now decided to take some time off. I'm not sure that doing what doctors do is what I really want. It was more about the status, then anything else.I already have my RN x 15 yrs,and now just thinking CRNA vs FNP. But back to your Q...If you choose the MD route there are lots of hoops to jump through.Anesthesia is quite competetive residency. In order to match in that specialty you'll have to have quite high score on USMLE step 1, and possibly step 2 (clinical).It is also helpful to be a graduate of US med or osteopathic school, acceptance to which may take you several years.Many folks at ROSS univ medical school where I went,said it would be now almost next to impossible to match from a foreign (pseudo-American) school.Though it's been done before. Last but not least...it's quite helpful to know someone at the institution you want to do residency at, so that your application does not go to "wrong" pile .I just want to give you a realistic look at that, but by no means to scare you away if that's what you realy wanna do.

Good Luck with your choices.
Just in case check out
student doctor network, and www.valuemd.com
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