Re: All CRNAs need to READ this
I shouldn't say anything, but all this political correctness is killing me! And these threads are the reason I stay away from this forum. First off, we are just as smart as MDA. I am pretty much thru w/ half my CRNA training and am well on my way to completing it (not even a chance I won't finish). I don't see any difference btwn MDA and CRNAs except they went the long route. I intubate/induce/iv access/wake up/vasopressors/etc- they intubate/etc. It is too easy to get seduced by being a "doctor", but most of that is political anyway. Being smart has nothing to do w/ getting into med school. I tried and both times I got bypassed while doctor's sons/daughters got in. Total BS. If I wasn't good enough, why am I now doing what anesthesiologist do (and I got in first shot). That just shows you how political it is (and pretty much all life).
You bring up pressure on written testing. That has nothing to do w/ sitting in an OR doing anesthesia. If I get the right answer the answer is just as right as yours that you came up w/ in half the time (and some ppl finished w/ extra time). Plus, I talk to families after death/codes too. I know how to talk to pt's which doctors don't!
Next, who was the smart one I finished my BSN and was working (earning $50,000+), while your going thru med school (making nothing). After 4 years in the ICU, I've seen many interns ask me (yes, me!) questions there first couple months. Then a month goes by and they get cocky and stop asking. Learning thru experience is much easier than all that "knowledge". If the HR goes down give Atropine, bp down- give dopamine, that is almost half the prob's in the ICU---solved!!!!!
Now CRNA school is teaching me the rest: airway protection, preop, ABG, if in doubt then LMA-- again most prob's solved!!!! It is so much easy, when you take it step by step and don't burn bridges w/ the patient. We have been told, that spending twice the time w/ a pt (extra 5-10 min) will prevent the majority of lawsuits. If there is any prob's an MDA isn't even needed!!! YOu know what you have other ppl to give input --surgeon/circulator/etc. At least i'm not too arrogant to know 2 heads are better than 1.
Next, I've seen studies that say we have similar M/M than MDAs (that means just as good in my books) if not better. And don't give me the harder cases line. Most of the harder cases the surgeon runs, and if he doesn't the cardiopartly bypass does the job!
Secondly, I didn't waste all that time w/ loans (I was making $) and studying stuff I don't need to know to do the same work as an MDA. More money, less loans, same job= Smarter path. And hey, I don't want to take your stupid test (again smarter path) that is why I chose nursing (and am proud of it). Answering questions on a test (written at that) doesn't make you (them) smarter.
Sorry if it's long-winded but the sooner they realize this the better. Guys don't let anyone tell you they are better than you, b/c we are truly better than them as providers and whole human beings! If I misspelled/misspoke I'm open for a civil discussion about it. Thanks.
PS We learn the same amount in less time= we are smarter!! (I dare you to explain that one)
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