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No. 100
from Sheri257
Old Apr 08, 2006, 04:26 PM

Default Re: Is the AA profession gaining ground?
Originally Posted by SigmaSRNA
My beef is that the ASA sees CRNAs as an unsafe alternative to an -ologists. If this is true, and we assume a typical AA's belief that an AA is the functional equivalent of a CRNA in an ACT setting, then that would mean AAs are just as unsafe as CRNAs; but for some reason (we all know why) they support your existance.
That's an excellent point. It's a hellava contradiction ... isn't it.

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No. 101
from Nitecap
Old Apr 08, 2006, 04:39 PM

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You guys still getting after it. Impressive. Got to many test coming up so Ill have to bow out of this one. You guys are some soldiers.
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No. 102
from maturner
Old Apr 08, 2006, 04:47 PM

Default Re: Is the AA profession gaining ground?
Originally Posted by SigmaSRNA
GeorgiaAA. First off I say this in all due respect. My beef is that the ASA sees CRNAs as an unsafe alternative to an -ologists. If this is true, and we assume a typical AA's belief that an AA is the functional equivalent of a CRNA in an ACT setting, then that would mean AAs are just as unsafe as CRNAs; but for some reason (we all know why) they support your existance. There is never a statement made by the ASA (based on their publication and the APSF's publication) in reference to the safety of using AAs. You have to admit this is kinda off huh?
WHAT the ... four pages of this thread are devoted to your whining about dead horses and now you have something valuable to add? Apparently, the horse isn't dead. Thanks for contributing to the discussion.

And by the way, you did bring up the sevo vs. des question.

Originally Posted by SigmaSRNA
I feel you on the boredom. But why beat a dead horse. I'm personally sick of debating this issue. I rather debate on which gas is best for an obese patient. Des or Sevo?
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No. 103
from SigmaSRNA
Old Apr 08, 2006, 04:53 PM

Default Re: Is the AA profession gaining ground?
Originally Posted by maturner
Wow, that is some great clinical debate.

So you want to discuss whether Sevo or des is better for the obese pt. Okay, you start... ...waiting ...waiting ...oh yea, you would have no idea given the fact that you have NEVER used either one! So much for the discussion.
I guess you don't remember this huh?
The only I could see you thinking this is if your talking about me starting a thread about Dr. Eger and Des. Other than that, I really wondering why you would say I started a debate about des vs. sevo.
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No. 104
from SigmaSRNA
Old Apr 08, 2006, 04:55 PM

Default Re: Is the AA profession gaining ground?
Originally Posted by maturner
WHAT the ... four pages of this thread are devoted to your whining about dead horses and now you have something valuable to add? Apparently, the horse isn't dead. Thanks for contributing to the discussion.

And by the way, you did bring up the sevo vs. des question.
Oh yeah..... My bad. You took me literally. I mean lets talk about something that can help me out when I start clincals in august. That's what I want to see on this board. The AA debate is important yes...we just don't need 18 threads on the first page about it. That's all I'm saying
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No. 105
from maturner
Old Apr 08, 2006, 05:04 PM

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Sigma, you are killing me dude.
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No. 106
from SigmaSRNA
Old Apr 08, 2006, 05:09 PM

Default Re: Is the AA profession gaining ground?
Originally Posted by maturner
Sigma, you are killing me dude.
Hey man. I can't remember everything I type. My bad. I got lungs on the brain. My fault man.
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No. 107
from skipaway
Old Apr 08, 2006, 07:29 PM

Default Re: Is the AA profession gaining ground?
Originally Posted by SigmaSRNA
GeorgiaAA. First off I say this in all due respect. My beef is that the ASA sees CRNAs as an unsafe alternative to an -ologists. If this is true, and we assume a typical AA's belief that an AA is the functional equivalent of a CRNA in an ACT setting, then that would mean AAs are just as unsafe as CRNAs; but for some reason (we all know why) they support your existance. There is never a statement made by the ASA (based on their publication and the APSF's publication) in reference to the safety of using AAs. You have to admit this is kinda off huh?
They support the existence of AAs b/c they are not in competition with them. They will always be in the ACT model. The ASA doesn't expect AAs to become solo practioners like CRNAs. If that were to occurr, I'm sure the AAs would start getting the same treatment we do. The ASA believes CRNAs are safe practioners but only in the team setting.
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No. 108
from weirdRN
Old Apr 08, 2006, 09:13 PM

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I once read an article where a brand of ketchup did no advertising b/c there was only the standard condiments. In the the interim, salsa makers started advertising. The sales of ketchup plummeted.

CRNAs are the ketchup. AAs are salsa.

There is a metaphore here. If CRNAs do not stick their noses in, they will become extinct just by not being in the market place and tooting their own horns. And by allowing politics to make them obsolete. Be active... and ever vigilant in the political arena... there is always some one who wants your slice of the pie in addition to their own.

Just my take on this situation....
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No. 109
from deepz
Old Apr 08, 2006, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Krismperez
.......If CRNAs do not stick their noses in, they will become extinct.........

Note of reality here: there are 33,000 CRNAs in America, and only a few hundred AAs.

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