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By the year of 2015 will all CRNA will be needing a Doctorate degree, instead of a Masters degree?... Read More

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    Quote from codyj
    It was a RECOMMENDATION-- not a mandate. And there is more than one accrediting board. I just had a chance to review the curriculum of one of these programs--- you would be better off to get your MBA with a concentration in healthcare after your CRNA. There is very little focus on the actual anesthesia part. And even though some PHD's might be pushing it-- they won't be tossing in the respect that you might think goes along with it.
    It was a recommendation from the AACN that the AANA adopted, so now in 2025 it is mandated by the AANA you will have to have your DNP/DNAP to sit for your CRNA exam. There is only one accrediting/certifying agency for CRNAs and that is the AANA. Each state can determine what is required for a license for CRNAs in that state, but it is mute point if AANA decides you will need your DNP to sit for your certification exam.

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    This may seem like a crazy question, but does that mean if say I graduate in 2015, that I will need my DNAP down the road? A lot of programs and hospitals require ongoing education. Does this mean we will need to get it, or that we will be "grandfathered" in?

    Also, how often do you have to recertify? And when you do so, what does that entail?

    I may point out that there simply ISNT a school within 3 states of me (MO) that offers a DNAP. You can get your CRNA and then get a DSNP or DSNR, but I dont think I've ever even SEEN a school that offers a DNAP. Does anyone know of such a facility? I had a hard enough time finding a CRNA grad school that was widely accredited much less finding one that offers a doctorate in it.
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    virginia commonwealth university (vcu) offers a dnap track in its program.
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    Ok, so the other day I was getting out of my biochem class at Oakland Uni in MI. I was talking to a classmate just accepted to MSUs CRNA MNP program and he was telling me all this crap so I stopped in the graduate offices and ran in to the Admissions Cordinator to the CRNA program at OU/Boumount Hospitals. She informed me that my school OU, was converting their program to a DNP and the target date is 2011, others will be following suit, National deadline for all programs to switch is 2025. Whats going to happen? same thing that happened when the CRNA programs were started and all the other regular RNs that were trained in anesthesia, they were granfathered in. This may have complications later down your career if you try to move to a different state, as laws change you may need to go back and do a MNP to DNP, not to bad tho. She was telling me even though the new program will be a DNP its only 12 months longer and also around 200-300 more clinical hours. OUs current program for CRNAs (MNP) you do around 800 hrs of clinicals to graduate. With the DNP it will be around 1000. Honestly, if this is your true pathway the extra year doesnt make that much of a difference it will be more benefical and you still have a top notch career.
    OU is one of the two CRNA programs ranked in the state of MI, the other is MSU.

    Thanks,
    Kevin
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    Hmmm I see a big problem in the future......

    Just ask Dr. so and so.....

    The medical doctor? the nurse doctor? the physical therapist doctor? the pharmacy doctor? My word!!! My head is about to explode ;-)

    Does a person with a Doctorate in Nursing go by Dr. so and so?
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    Yes! If you have a D in your credentials whether it be an MD, PHD, PHARMD, DPT or DNAP, you put in the hours and deserve the title of DOCTOR!

    I think that the idea that some MD's have that "nurses can't hold the title of Doctor" is ridiculous! If a teacher earns a PHD you respect them with the title of Dr. So-and-so. Nurses are the same way. And let me tell you, when I finish my 1,000th hour of clinical? My KIDS are going to be calling me Doctor.
    dee122381, MandaKay16, RelloydRN, and 1 other like this.
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    Quote from mindlor
    Hmmm I see a big problem in the future......

    Just ask Dr. so and so.....

    The medical doctor? the nurse doctor? the physical therapist doctor? the pharmacy doctor? My word!!! My head is about to explode ;-)

    Does a person with a Doctorate in Nursing go by Dr. so and so?
    Hmm....maybe people will just have to start asking for the physician, pharmacist, nurse, the physical therapist etc..... You know for several years now pharmacists/OT/PT/ST etc. have been getting their doctorates, but as soon as nurses start getting doctorates on a more wide spread scale it is suddenly a crisis?....Heaven forbid that we are just going to have to start educating our patients that just because you have your doctorate in something doesn't mean you are a physician.
    koreaabc92, L&DWannabe, NurseKitten, and 1 other like this.
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    I agree. "Doctor" is not the technical term for a physician. I think that this is such a positive change for nurses. What a better way to earn the respect that we deserve? These advanced degrees are going to make the title "nurse" have so much more weight. Not that it shouldn't have been respected before, but now "doctors" will realize that they are not the only "doctor" in the room, and can behave accordingly.

    I'm all for it!
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    Quote from L&DWannabe
    Not that it shouldn't have been respected before, but now "doctors" will realize that they are not the only "doctor" in the room, and can behave accordingly.
    Have you worked around physicians very much? Some of these guys/gals are going to be just as arrogant and obnoxious no matter who else is around. Most physicians could care less how much education we get as nurses. They will still see us as subserviant to them, and most will still expect us to follow their orders without question.
    koreaabc92 likes this.
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    The question that I have is that since it will change to a Doctorate, will the rate of pay increase as well?


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