RN to Midwife

  1. 0 Hi there,

    I'm a newly graduated RN (baby nurse as i'm often called at the hospital that i work at), who has a passion for all things having to do with birth. I'm currently working on a med-surg floor that has a focus on respiratory illnesses (a lot of CF patients). I'm hoping to start working at one of the best women's hospitals in the country in a few months and would like some tips on how to eventually move into a career in midwifery. In Canada, you don't need to be a registered nurse in order to be a midwife. In fact, the university I graduated from has a Bachelor's in Midwifery program. I don't want to get a second Bachelor's degree, however.

    So, any tips on how long I should work in Labour and Delivery before going back to school to become a midwife?

    Thank you

    =)
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  3. Visit  Claire_Fraser} profile page

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  4. Visit  33-weeker} profile page
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    this is probably not the advice you're looking for, but, for what it's worth...

    don't stay too long, otherwise the midwives will have to do a lot of correcting bad habits/un-teaching wrong information. the usa is rivaled only by canada in its inappropriate overuse of technology in birth.

    i live in the us and i had all my babies at home with a midwife. i've also been a nursery/nicu nurse for the better part of 16 years. i don't work l&d becuase i couldn't stand doing so many things i don't believe in.

    certain things would be helpful, like getting the hang of checking cervixes, getting to deliver some when the docs don't make it, etc. but don't get too caught up in the hysteria of thinking every birth is a crisis. most of the problems seen in hospitals (normal, healthy women at least) is due to medical intereference in the birth process.

    good books to read are a good birth, a safe birth, silent knife, spiritual midwifery (gaskin), and obstetric myths vs research realities (goer). they definitely put things in perspective. also helpful is reading the birth stories of women who have had previous hospital births and gone on to have home births. the contrast they describe is stunning. you can find them on the web and in books.

    good luck.
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  5. Visit  NPinWCH} profile page
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    Quote from 33-weeker
    don't stay too long, otherwise the midwives will have to do a lot of correcting bad habits/un-teaching wrong information. the usa is rivaled only by canada in its inappropriate overuse of technology in birth.
    i am a hospital l&d nurse with 10yrs experience and i agree with you on the inappropriate use of technology, but i wanted to say that there are some rns who believe in natural birth out there. i work very hard to maintain as natural a birth experience as i can in the hospital system, at least for my patients that want them.

    i agree, many docs/hospitals and even nurses make even the most uncomplicated pregnancy complicated, but there are those of us out there fighting that trend.

    you don't have learn the bad habits...you have to learn to work around them, but you don't have to incorrporate them into your own practice.

    debbie
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  6. Visit  htrn} profile page
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    I am glad you started this thread. I have been working in L&D for 5 years, right out of college. I have really lost faith in the birth process, have found myself facilitating the medicalization of the birth process and not believing in a woman's ability to give birth naturally. I have begun to get more and more panicky about EFM strips that bear watching, not fear. Pitocin has become as vital to the labor process as oxygen is to life and it is making me crazy.

    The thing is, I DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE THIS. Finding another job is not an option for many reasons, but I would like to regain my faith in the natural process. I have always wanted to return to school to get my MSN in midwifery, but truely feel that with my current attitude, it is not such a good idea.

    I will be looking for the books that you recommended. Thanks again for starting this thread.
  7. Visit  mitchsmom} profile page
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    Quote from jayceee
    Hi there,

    I'm a newly graduated RN (baby nurse as i'm often called at the hospital that i work at), who has a passion for all things having to do with birth. I'm currently working on a med-surg floor that has a focus on respiratory illnesses (a lot of CF patients). I'm hoping to start working at one of the best women's hospitals in the country in a few months and would like some tips on how to eventually move into a career in midwifery. In Canada, you don't need to be a registered nurse in order to be a midwife. In fact, the university I graduated from has a Bachelor's in Midwifery program. I don't want to get a second Bachelor's degree, however.

    So, any tips on how long I should work in Labour and Delivery before going back to school to become a midwife?
    I would definitely ask at whatever program you are interested in studying at... many if not most CNM programs (usually confer master's degrees and graduates usually work in hospitals, sometimes freestanding (non-hospital) birth centers and home births) in the US want at least a year of full time experience in L&D.
    Our direct-entry programs (which don't require you to be a nurse first; the graduates usually work in freestanding (non-hospital) birth centers or home births) obviously don't have this requirement but may have others.
    It probably varies a lot from program to program.
    I always hear people say that it takes at least a year in L&D to start feeling at all comfortable.
  8. Visit  SmilingBluEyes} profile page
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    I feel it's more like 2 years myself. But everyone is different. 2 years, I was somewhat comfortable. 5 years and I felt truly competent and experienced.
  9. Visit  33-weeker} profile page
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    yes - i should add that some l&d nurses do a very good job of trying to maintain normalcy in birth in the hospital setting. kudos to those of you who do!
  10. Visit  mitchsmom} profile page
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    Quote from obrnheather
    I am glad you started this thread. I have been working in L&D for 5 years, right out of college. I have really lost faith in the birth process, have found myself facilitating the medicalization of the birth process and not believing in a woman's ability to give birth naturally. I have begun to get more and more panicky about EFM strips that bear watching, not fear. Pitocin has become as vital to the labor process as oxygen is to life and it is making me crazy.

    The thing is, I DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE THIS. Finding another job is not an option for many reasons, but I would like to regain my faith in the natural process. I have always wanted to return to school to get my MSN in midwifery, but truely feel that with my current attitude, it is not such a good idea.

    I will be looking for the books that you recommended. Thanks again for starting this thread.
    You could come join me on our unit... we have a fair amount of immigrants who go unmedicated Other than them of course, there are lots of interventions...
  11. Visit  JentheRN05} profile page
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    I have always had this as my ultimate dream. I plan on attending Frontier myself. But not until after I have my FNP, which at present will take a few years.
  12. Visit  SmilingBluEyes} profile page
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    Truly, I think experience in varying birth settings would be best. The hospital is but ONE venue......I think apprenticing with midwives in birthing centers would be extremely helpful, also. The hospital environment is not very conducive to natural birthing, as we all know, in many cases. JMO.
  13. Visit  rtoi123} profile page
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    I am currently a CNM/FNP (we are called FNM) student at Emory in Atl. I had 7 years of RN L&D experience before I entered the program. However, the program I am in does not require you to have any L&D experience they only require you to have your BSN and they also offer a bridge program for that. I think the students who don't have any experience do have a harder time, but they are all very smart and they are doing it. I also think that it is great that you are getting some med-surg experience. I don't have that and I really think it is helpful for those that have it. Especially since I am doing the dual program. There are lots of great schools out there. You just need to do your research and call and talk to them. I spoke to the head of our program many times before I made my final decision. The thing that attracted me to Emory was the dual degree program in 5 semesters. I hate to think about 2 boards but I think it will be worth it. I am loving school and I can't say enough about my program and the great group of educators we have. If you have any more questions or if I can help your decision let me know! Good luck and follow your dreams!!!!
    Rachel
    Last edit by sirI on Oct 21, '06 : Reason: edit OP title after merged threads
  14. Visit  Claire_Fraser} profile page
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    I'm back. It's been a little over three years since my initial post. Life took me away from birthing, and into the realm of cardiac surgery. I'm currently working as an RN in a cardiac surgery intensive care unit. Pretty much as far from midwifery as one can get.

    I feel as though I'm ready to start following my dream of becoming a CNM again. Hoping to move to SF within the next year with a plan to enroll in UCSF's CNM-WHNP program within the next two years. Perhaps Frontier's program will be an option as well.

    So, hello again! I'm hoping to become a more active contributor to this forum.
  15. Visit  LoveANurse09} profile page
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    Just to get this thread going again,I'll post my questions here too!

    I'm a little confused on some things.For some schools no L&D experience is needed? I graduated in may 09 and working in cardiac as no L&D jobs were available to me as a new grad. I've recently found Frontier's website extremely encouraging,especially the bridge program. Does anyone know if there is a time limit between completing the bridge program and starting the MSN? I was wondering if I could apply to the bridge program,hopefully obtain a position on L&D,gain some experience there and then start the MSN-CNM?

    Any Frontier bridge stundents out there? I would love to ask more questions! Thanks.


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