Future CNMs - page 5
Just thought it would be kind of nice to get a little chat going. I know there are a couple of us who are CNM wannabes buthave worries too. My biggest concern is malpractice insurance. Hopefully... Read More
Sep 4, '04hello*~
i am also planning the route to a cnm practice someday. i live in oregon, and oregon health sciences university is where i will go (no question).
i am currently an lpn, and will finish the adn program next june. then one more year in a rn/bsn program full time. the cnm program at ohsu is 2 full years, so it will be 2008 before i am done!! (yikes!).:spin::spin:
i am also a doula, and mainly provide services pro-bono to low income or teen parents. i am 30 and a mom to three wonderful kids (son 12, and girls 9 & 5). unfortunately, due to preterm labor with all three i had an ob attending their births. i wish i had had a cnm though.
i agree that i feel an insane calling to be a midwife. i applied and was even accepted into a direct-entry midwifery program years ago, but i just could not justify the cost vs. future job security. i feel that as a cnm, i will be able to provide the services and choices to women that they deserve. i hope to join a practice, but may end up starting my own with other cnms. the malpractice issue is one that keeps me up at night sometimes, wondering if things will all work out in the end.
i feel the need to make a difference in women's lives, and by being there when they give birth. that time is just so magical. yes, i am glad we have the medical equipment for live-saving care, but it is rarely needed. birth is not a medical event. however, it does not hurt to be well trained in all aspects of care. by becoming an rn first, this allows me to stay focused on the patient's well being and care not just "medical procedures".
nice to meet some with common goals! let me know if you have any questions about ohsu's program. i have collected quite a stack if info over the years. it does not offer classes by distance learning, i know that for a fact. however, it is an excellent program and i can't wait.
have a great day!
Quote from ayndimjust thought it would be kind of nice to get a little chat going. i know there are a couple of us who are cnm wannabes buthave worries too. my biggest concern is. hopefully something will be done soon. i don't mind the schedule.
so what are your worries, hopes and why do you want to be (or are you) a cnm.
Sep 4, '04I have to agree with the get experience thing. I work in a very CNM friendly hospital and so I have seen lots of CNM students over the years. We have 10 OB's (5 in one practice) and the 5 Ob practice has 5 of their own CNM's. They are great! I also feel that being an RN BEFORE going to midwifery school is a plpus for the student. programs like Yale make non nurse students RN's in ONE year, which IMHO, is ridiculous. In summation, I think those CNM students who were RN's BEFORE going to midwifery school make far better CNM's. I would never go on to midwifery school. Too much liability, too much responsibility, too much everything. I am lucky enough to work in a wonderful low risk, low intervention LDRP. Good luck to all of you. You'll need it. CNm's often do far more then the docs!
Sep 7, '04Hi, I'm also a future midwife. I'm a freshmen in the associates nursing program (technically a sophmore, though, since I went through the "pre-nursing" program last year and got all my pre-requisites out of the way). I'm thinking after I get my bachelors, I'll either attend SUNY Stoneybrook, or Frontier School of Midwifery, as I see many of you are considering as well.
I'm 23 years old, and have three children. I had a pretty bad experience with my first child's birth. The nurse put medication (Nubain) in my IV without my knowledge or consent. I ended up having breastfeeding difficulties, and nobody was able to help me. It turns out I have breast hypoplasia, so with my next two kids I used the SNS to nurse and give my babies supplements. Two of my three children were born at home, unassisted. They were amazing, empowering, uncomplicated births. My first child was 9 lbs 13 oz (vaginal), my second was my smallest at 9 lbs (vaginal of course), and my third child was 10 lbs 8 oz (again, vaginal).
I went through training to be a doula, and did everything except for the births. Nobody wants a young doula, and even the older more experienced doulas in this area rarely get called to attend a birth.
I knew I wanted to be a midwife, and at first I was thinking about being a lay midwife. But, it's illegal in my state, and I didn't want that battle. I figure if I'm going to go to college, might as well go the full route and become a certified nurse midwife. Then, hopefully, I'll be taken seriously. A lot of people don't pay any mind when I mention the possible side effects of pitocin or epidurals ("Oh, my doctor says it's completely safe!" or "No, the doctor said that the epidural had nothing to do with the fact that I ended up with a c-section for failure to progress/decreased fetal heartrate."). *sigh*
There isn't a single certified nurse midwife in my county. The local hospital has a 32.9% cesarean section rate. It's bad. I want to change things here. I love this area. But, I'm afraid the struggle would be worthless, and nothing would change, and I'd end up being unable to practice or/and in jail!
Sep 9, '04I just started Frontier last month and it is an amazing school. It is one of the most respected in the field and the faculty is incredible! I researched many schools and kept coming back to Frontier. I will never regret my decision to go there. It will be a hard 2 years but definately worth it in the end. The comraderie and sense of community among the staff and students keeps everyone going. I can't say enough about what an amazing school it is.
Sep 9, '04Cool to hear from other future CNM's! I'd love to hear more about your paths and programs!
on another note...ahem... I still haven't forgotten about writing the programs (the discussion from before)... I just haven't done it!! LOL
But it looks like I'm in the same boat as aymdim and CNM2b... are yall out there?
I am finally starting clinicals in my program and I'm thrilled (although it's in a nursing home so it's kind of at the other end of the spectrum). I am part-time, my full-time classmates from last year are in their peds/OB rotations right now and I'm so jealous!!! I was happy to hear that they talked about midwives and saw some kind of video about them (or the distinction between OBs/midwives). Even heard they showed water birth. I kind of had the idea that they made it sound like CNM's did mainly home/water births (more like the non-nurse midwives' role, CPMs, LMs, etc.), which is of course where some work, but really not where most CNM's are working, but I was really happy they talked about it. The one guy I talked to asked me how the babies can be born in the water (guess they didn't get into a lot of detail)
Sep 21, '04I am glad to read that you want to be a CNM, i did it the hard way midwifery school then BSN and working on MSN I am now teaching Ob in an LPN school I miss the closeness i had w my clients and run into them at Walmart a lot but @56 it was too much on this old body. make sure that you get into a practice that has your values w managed care it seems the bottom line is more important than patients. How do you save the world? one baby at a time good luck midwiftippitoes
Sep 22, '04Hi everyone! I haven't had time to go back and read through the whole thread yet, but wanted to subscribe I am at the very beginning of my journey. I am on the waiting list for my school for my ADN and will begin nursing classes Fall 05. Right now I'm taking all my general ed. classes. When I graduate in May 07, I aspire to work in the L&D/aftercare unit of my local hospital. While I'm working, I'm going to slowly work towards CNM - I don't plan to finish for quite a while - my youngest just turned 2, so this is definitely a long term goal. But it is a definite for me! I'll post about my experiences (childbirth-related) next time. Gotta run! Great to see this thread
Sep 30, '04What are the people at Frontier forcasting in terms of the malpractice issue, prescriptive authority and future of midwifery in the US? Everything I hear from Maryland CNMs is quite negative.
Quote from Baby CatcherI just started Frontier last month and it is an amazing school. It is one of the most respected in the field and the faculty is incredible! I researched many schools and kept coming back to Frontier. I will never regret my decision to go there. It will be a hard 2 years but definately worth it in the end. The comraderie and sense of community among the staff and students keeps everyone going. I can't say enough about what an amazing school it is.
Oct 2, '04midwiftippitoes, it seems like teaching OB as a midwife would be very satisfying... maybe even more so in some ways (avoid some of the frustrations with conflicts on the floor). This way you really get to teach things from your perspective!! I think I would enjoy that a lot.
Welcome Jennifer! I am also on the 'long-term goal' track... this is my third year back in school part-time. I will have my BSN in spring 2006, go work L&D and then pursue CNM from there.
abake003, do the midwives you talk with act like presciptive authority is going to be taken away? (do you have it in your state? mine has it) I couldn't imagine it being taken away once it's already been gained, but then again I'm not really in the loop on all that. I was told by a univ. CNM instructor that the malpractice thing always seems to wax and wane through the years (although obviously never really completely wane, always an issue). What do the midwives that you talk to say? Although it always seems like a scary specialty to get into, hasn't midwifery care increased?
Oct 2, '04Alright guys....time for me to say adieu...... I am heading on a different track now I think. Midwifery is still an option, but a very faint one. I now think I might like to teach, but I am going to see where my journey takes me. Whatever I choose to do, I will get my Masters.
Good luck to all of you! I'll probably still jump in once in awhile and check out what's going on!