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Aug 12, 2008 09:36 AM

Help!

by leyou

I have a friend who took the CRNE exam for Ontario (Canada) and already used all the chances to pass the exam. He failed the last one and the board don't give him any other chance. Do someone can help? or do you know if he has to go to school again by completing all the four years, as he has a bachelor degree in nursing. What he doesn't anderstand, the board don't tell him what to do, and just tell that <<the computer don't recognize you anymore, and there is nothing we can do for you>>.

If you know about that, your information will help, and thank you for your understanding.

Thread edited to change the NCLEX to the CRNE exam, since that is the licensing exam for Canada.

Suzanne4


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No. 1
from Bel-USA
Old Aug 12, 2008, 10:08 AM

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I don't have an answer for you, for what I know here in the US you have unlimited number of time you can sit for the NCLEX.

Try to post your question in the Foreign/International nurse forum, hopefully they will be able to answer your question there... Has your friend contacted his nursing school? They might be able to help him.

Good luck to your friend.
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from leyou
Old Aug 12, 2008, 10:23 AM

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Bel-USA,

Just to answer me, and give an idea this is a help. Thank you so much!
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No. 3
from Bel-USA
Old Aug 12, 2008, 10:33 AM

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You are welcome! I just have a hard time believing your friend has to go through this... Isn't going through nursing school good enough?
I wish you both the best...
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No. 4
from leyou
Old Aug 12, 2008, 12:11 PM

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He went to one of the best university , University of Ottawa Canada. If you want, you can go to www.uottawa.ca, and you can have an idea. After four years of study, and received a diploma, I can't beleive either the Board can do that. As you said, he has to contact them again.

Thank you again
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No. 5
from suzanne4
Old Aug 12, 2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bel-USA View Post
I don't have an answer for you, for what I know here in the US you have unlimited number of time you can sit for the NCLEX.

Try to post your question in the Foreign/International nurse forum, hopefully they will be able to answer your question there... Has your friend contacted his nursing school? They might be able to help him.

Good luck to your friend.
Actually this is not correct. There are only about three states that have unlimited attempts. Most have three and then they require either special review before one can sit for the exam again, or even have to repeat nursing school for some.

CA and NY are two that permit unlimited testing.
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No. 6
from suzanne4
Old Aug 12, 2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by leyou View Post
He went to one of the best university , University of Ottawa Canada. If you want, you can go to www.uottawa.ca, and you can have an idea. After four years of study, and received a diploma, I can't beleive either the Board can do that. As you said, he has to contact them again.

Thank you again
They are actually quite strict with the testing in Canada, and only give three tries for the exam. Any nursing board has the right to put in place what they want for standards for the nurses for that province.

He is going to need to contact them, but more than likely he is going to have to complete at least part of his training again, if not all, before they will permit him to sit for the exam.

Any foreign nurse that goes to Canada has only the three attempts or then they get their visa cancelled and they have to leave the country.

The NCLEX exam is the licensing exam for the US, it is not used for Canada.

Canada uses only the CRNE exam.

Since this thread is specific to the CRNE exam, will move this thread to the Canadian forum where it will be more appropriate and you can get responses from the Canadian nurses. Will also edit the title to reflect the CRNE exam.
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No. 7
from leyou
Old Aug 13, 2008, 11:46 AM

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I thank you so much Suzanne4 for your information. Since the day I come to that site, your are a blessing to me.

Thank you again, and God bless you and your family.
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No. 8
from GingerSue
Old Aug 16, 2008, 01:57 PM
Updated Aug 16, 2008 at 02:02 PM by GingerSue

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Have you or your friend contacted the Canadian Nurses Association?
Or your friend's provincial nursing licensing association?
Or the nursing department/counselling department at your friend's university?
Certainly hope that you and your friend receive some answers about
the CRNE.
This is some additional info about CRNE from one of the other threads in this forum:
with contact information for the Canadian Nurses Association:
http://www.cna-nurses.ca/CNA/documen...May_2008_e.pdf
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No. 9
from janfrn
Old Aug 16, 2008, 02:58 PM

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leyou, I suspect that your friend will have to retake at least part of his education in order to be reconsidered for the CRNE. CNA is pretty clear that there will be three chances and three chances only to be successful in writing it. It is a bit of a surprise and concern that he was educated at the U of O and has failed the exam three times. Might there be some language difficulties associated with this? I only ask this because your English usage is a little unusual.

As Suzanne4 has said, and as I have reiterated many other times on this board, the Colleges of Nursing in Canada (and the Boards of Nursing in the US as well) are responsible for the safe, competent and ethical nursing care provided in their jurisdictions. They have the authority and the responsibility to determine standards of nursing education and care and what is required to meet those standards. It is about as fair a process as it can be. These are the requirements that ALL nurses must meet regardless of age, gender, ethnicity or where they were educated, and the exam is administered and graded without any kind of identifying information other than a ID number that is later matched back to the person who wrote. One either passes or one doesn't. Three tries should be enough to measure a person's kowlegde base, and since the exams are continually changed and updated, they give a pretty accurate picture of what one knows and doesn't know. Since the majority of people who write the CRNE pass it on their first attempt, I'd say that reflects a fair evaluation.

Your friend will have to contact the College of Nurses of Ontario (http://www.cno.org) and seek their ruling on what steps are in order now.
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