Before the Morning (Failed CRNE three times. what now?) - page 10
I just received a bad news. My nursing career is over. Yes, I am no longer one of you, but I feel a need to share my story. I have failed the CRNE for the third time and honestly, I don't know what... Read More
May 11, '11Thanks for the opinions guys. I'm well aware of the CNO's goal to protect the client and I appreciate your responses.
May 13, '11Quote from mkmitcheI'm also in the same predicament as you.. Email me.. firstname.lastname@example.orgI am in the same boat. New to this. But I feel like no one is giving us much direction. If if I have to go back to school and take refresher course or what not why are thetelling me I'm ineligible to enroll (makes sense why give out a 2nd degree in the same thing). There has to be a way and if anyone knows pls share with me. I'm writing the rpn may 18th. And when I pass @ least I'd be more patient in finding another alternative in re-writing the crne. And for those students who passed the exam and stating that the crne is a fair exam. Walk in my shoes for a day!
May 14, '11first I'd like to say i'm so sorry about you failing your exam for the third time.
I don't think you are meant to do anything else. you have a 4 year degree and there is just one exam in the way of your career.
first off, you may be having issues with test taking. I am not sure what it is but I would recommend going to a doctor and seeing if you have anxiety or something like that.
when I was in one of my clinicals my instructor told me a story about a student of hers that failed the CRNE 3 times. she finally went to a doctor and realized she had severe anxiety during major exams. he ended up writing a letter to have her tested a different way. she received an oral test from CARNA and passed. she had all of the knowledge to be a RN but froze when taking written exams.
I just think you should not give up, this does not mean you don't have the knowledge or skill to be a RN
May 14, '11yes you can take the NCLEX in the states if you have failed the CRNE 3 times. some states do not require you to show your registration. I wrote the CRNE and the NCLEX-RN. I have lic in Alberta and Alaska. try Alaska, you just send your transcripts. BUT the NCLEX is about a million times harder than the CRNE
Jun 1, '11All you guys that say the CNO limit of three tries for the CRNE are deluded. The CNO is one of the most beuracratic, hodge-podge organizations on the planet. I have NO connection to nursing, this is my opinion, because I have dealt with them on other matters.
Exams test what you DON'T know, not what you know. Many individuals cannot handle a paper and pen exam, that does not mean they would be bad nurses, I guarantee it. All those BS formulas/math you learn in school, all that theory, garbage! That is what BOOKs are for, if you don't know it, look it up.
The CNO, like any standards association, should be looking for critical thinkers, and not "exam passers". A critical thinker, through mentorship, can learn anything. The exams should be done away with, and a mentorship avenue should be used instead. 3-4 year course, then 1-2 year(s) of mentorship based on your schooling results.
In a horribly executed manner, this is what the CNO is doing, by allowing RN failures to write the PN exam. It also always them to grab for revenue from the exam charges.
Jun 1, '11The exam does test critical thinking, and the majority of people taking the exam pass it.
Jun 1, '11@fiona59: that is exactly what i meant, when i said "horribly executed manner", i hope you took it that way. it is a bad approach, and an insult to people, poorly executed.
@joanna73: i have to respectfully disagree. critical thinking is based on the evidence at hand, and what you think is the correct answer for this situation, not what someone else thinks, or what a "standard" says. this can only be determined at the time, not on some dreamed up scenario written out on paper. there is no best answer to critical thinking, but the cno likes to think there is.
"majority" of people passing is not good enough in my opinion, what happens if it was split 51 pass/49 fail? the cno, in my opinion, is a blocker to good healthcare, not an enabler. if the people can pass 4 years of schooling (and the schooling is properly monitored and scored), then the crne does nothing but add another layer of beuracracy.
anyone is certainly entitled to disagree with me, but i wanted to reassure the people who have "failed", that there are people out there, that think the current crne system is no longer relevant.
unfortunately, if you want to pass in this current "system", you will have to "learn" their way of thinking, if you agree with it out not.
Jun 1, '11Yes I would agree that there is more than one answer. However, our nursing education is geared to taking that exam at the end. Basically, it's a game....their game, and we have to play by their rules. Debating that isn't going to change it. As I've said before though, if they fail the CRNE, they should not be allowed to write the LPN exam. Three tries is more than fair.
Jun 1, '11I am an RPN who definitely finds it insulting that would-be RNs who fail the CRNE three times are permitted to sit our exam.
If someone can't pass the entry-to-practice exam for thier desired profession, then they should consider that perhaps that profession is not for them.
Failing the first time, sure...but the second time, you know what to expect...and if the person fails a second time, then IMHO they should give serious thought to doing some remedial course work or perhaps take a course on exam prep to help them overcome whatever obstacles keep preventing them from being successful at writing the exam.
If the person gets super nervous writing exams, they should talk to someone about controlling their anxiety,and perhaps get documentation from their Dr so the CNO can accomodate their anxiety, perhaps by allowing them extra time to write, or a private room, etc.
If, however, the person's nerves are fine, but they simply don't know the right answers, that says that their education was incomplete. Just MHO.Last edit by CanadianGirl79 on Jun 1, '11
Jun 2, '11In the spirit of discussion, why is it so bad to allow those who fail the CRNE to take the CPNRE?
Do those who fail the CRNE 3 times usually pass the CPNRE?