OT For the Last Four Hours of a 12 Hour Shift in Palm Springs?

  1. Ran across this info an article:

    "Eisenhower Medical Center in Rancho Mirage, which already met the staffing standard even before the law, has hired about 200 nurses in the last year alone, according to spokeswoman Mary Kay Plock.

    To maintain adequate staffing Plock said the hospital offers new nurses tuition reimbursement, relocation assistance and pays nurses time-and-a-half for the final four hours of a 12-hour shift."

    http://www.thedesertsun.com/news/sto...07234639.shtml

    Just wondering if anybody works at this hospital, and if this is for real, since I remember somebody posting not too long ago that the pay in Palm Springs isn't all that great.

    Last edit by Sheri257 on Apr 24, '04
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  2. 9 Comments

  3. by   Gomer
    California wage and hour law requires that employers pay any hourly employee time and a half after 8 hours (double time after 12).

    As for Palm Springs, the pay isn't that great due to cost of living (this is the case in most areas of California where housing is expensive). But the hospitals are good and if you like 100+ degree weather (in the summer) it's a nice place to live.
  4. by   Sheri257
    Quote from Gomer
    California wage and hour law requires that employers pay any hourly employee time and a half after 8 hours (double time after 12).
    Ok. I guess I was wrong but I thought OT only kicked in after 40 hours a week. My husband works 10 hour days, 4 days a week and doesn't get any OT unless he works more than 40 hours. And he works for the state. Am I missing something?

    :uhoh21:
  5. by   2ndCareerRN
    California wage and hour law requires that employers pay any hourly employee time and a half after 8 hours (double time after 12).
    Not quite true. As with any rule or law pertaining to wages there are exemptions. Some can apply to nurses. The best place to look is the CA DOL website for the rules. Here is a place that does a fair job explaining the different exemptions. http://www.las-elc.org/overtime1.pdf

    Most hospitals will pay OT after 8, just so they can have staff. Where would you work? A hospital that does not do OT after 8 hrs, or a hospital across town that does OT after 8?

    bob
  6. by   Gomer
    Quote from lizz
    Ok. I guess I was wrong but I thought OT only kicked in after 40 hours a week. My husband works 10 hour days, 4 days a week and doesn't get any OT unless he works more than 40 hours. And he works for the state. Am I missing something?

    :uhoh21:
    No, you are not missing anything. Sorry I confused you. There are (I believe) 15 or 16 separate wage and hour laws in California. Nurses fall under one wage order while public employees (those working for state/city) fall under another one. Public employees (example: those working for the state or city like nursing working in a public hospital) and those under union contracts may be paid OT after 40hr/week rather than after 8hr/day. The new law that covers most nurses (AB69, passed in 1999) requires that OT be paid after 8 hrs without lowering the base rate (which some hospitals did in the past). Because most hospitals are now paying OT after 8 hrs even those who had been exempt from the law are now following those rules just so they can compete. You can find all the wage and hour rules by going to www.ca.gov
  7. by   missnurse01
    Hello all:

    In the valley (palm springs area) all three hospitals pay ot after 8 hours of working-some of them do it the normal way on the paychecks, some of them add it all up togther them pay you an hourly wage, but it works out the same.

    My best friend is graduating this month and will be working nights at the pay of $27.70 an hour! I left cali 2 years ago and new grads in this area were getting 18 an hour. She was also informed that everyone in the valley will be getting a raise in the next 4 months.

    Cost of living isn't bad, rent is average but you pay out the ying yang for electric during the summer-my 3 bdrm house was about 400 month minimum-my mother in laws was 800 a month (6 bdrm). It gets HOT, 110s-120s...like a blowdryer when the wind blows.

    anyway, that's the info i know!
  8. by   275Main
    I am confused, if you belong to a union or work in a union shop then this overtime after 8 hours would not apply to you...at least this is how I interpret this. This is also something that I have not heard of and I have been searching for jobs in the bay area, and even though it is a state law is this overtime rule more common in certain areas of the state rather than others? Also how do you find out whether or not a hospital follows this policy?
  9. by   missnurse01
    275main,

    I know that in some areas it looks like you don't get ot because they average it in. Example-you get norm rate of $20 an hour for 8 hours, then $30 an hour for 4 hours which would be like $280 for 12 hour total, then they divide it up and tell you that they pay $23.33 per hour without telling you that you don't get ot, that it is all figured out together. As far as I know, either hr or whomever decides your pay is who you need to ask if it is that rate plus ot or without. I thought everyone in cali had to be paid ot-one way or the other...
  10. by   natasha700
    I know for a fact some hospitals dont pay ot after 8 hours. Arrowhead is one I know for sure. I don't know if it is because it is a county hospital but not all hospitals in California does this.
  11. by   bjpkwiltz
    Some southern Ca hospitals are grandfathered in for OT only after 40 hrs in a week or 12 hrs in a day, ie Southwest healthcare in Temecula. But their hourly rates tend to compensate so total 12 hr shift pay is close to those with OT after 8.....its all business now.....

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