Is Everybody Moving to California? - page 9

Just an observation but, it seems like there's a flood of posts lately from people inquiring about moving here. Not too long ago the local news seemed to be filled with stories about people... Read More

  1. by   puresass
    Quote from Fionasmommy
    If you ar a nurse in say, san diego making on average 50k a year, you can make it just fine. We are doing it on a much less salary and we live 2 blocks from the beach in a nice part of san diego. None of my friends are rich and we have all lived here our entire lives and have all done very well and we have all stayed close to the beach. You just need to know the city and do research, but it is very doable.
    it would be easy to RENT by the beach with under $50k a year (maybe in PB, OB, or IB) but i can't see how someone could make that amount of money and OWN a house by the beach... or anywhere else in san diego for that matter.
  2. by   Sheri257
    Quote from RNmommy
    Fionasmommy, you OWN a house two blocks from the beach and make less than $50k??? Which beach? How do your schools rate? What are your taxes.

    Gee, I lived in SD my whole life (until recently) and never found any of these realestate bargains you say are easy to find with a "little research".
    She didn't actually say she owned a house. But, if she does, maybe they bought it before prices got really crazy.

    :typing
    Last edit by Sheri257 on Oct 13, '06
  3. by   Fionasmommy
    Quote from lizz
    She didn't actually say she owned a house. But, if she does, maybe they bought it before prices got really crazy.

    :typing
    Your right, I didnt say I OWN a house. But I do rent one. My comment was manly to the people that say they want to move to CA but cant afford it. If you want to live here, you can rent and live in a nice place for a decent amount of rent. While you are renting, you can get to know the areas and porobably be able to find a place you can afford to buy eventually, but I think its better to be out here and start building your life and it wil be easier to find the right place to buy if that is your goal. Living in AZ or anyother state and looking online isnt going to find you what you want unless you have a lot of money.
  4. by   teeituptom
    Quote from RNmommy
    Fionasmommy, you OWN a house two blocks from the beach and make less than $50k??? Which beach? How do your schools rate? What are your taxes.

    Gee, I lived in SD my whole life (until recently) and never found any of these realestate bargains you say are easy to find with a "little research".
    Living that close to the beach, who cares about schools.
    Besides California schools Rate Far Higher than lowly Texas Schools.
  5. by   Lawdo2
    Hello,

    I live in California and have been here since 1979 and I am trying to get out. Housing is "outrageous" and if you are willing to live to pay a mortgage go right ahead and move here. Otherwise if I were you, I would look elsewhere. You wouldn't be missing a thing!
  6. by   Sheri257
    Quote from Lawdo2
    I live in California and have been here since 1979 and I am trying to get out.
    If only I'd bought a house in California in '79 ...

    Whoah ... I'd be sitting on a gold mine and could retire!

    I'm happy with the equity I have now but, man ... I should have bought much, much earlier ...

    As the song says ... California dreamin'.

    Last edit by Sheri257 on Oct 13, '06
  7. by   RNmommy
    Quote from teeituptom
    Living that close to the beach, who cares about schools.
    Besides California schools Rate Far Higher than lowly Texas Schools.
    Actually CA ranks 47th in the nation and Texas ranks 24th. Schools are a big deal when you have children, as it seems fionasmommy does. The beach isn't all that to a lot of people. There are only a select few, highly unaffordable, beach communities in SD I would ever choose tho live in.

    That's was the point I was trying to make, fionasmommy, it is very hard to OWN a home in San Diego. Unfortunately, renting a home is not something I would ever consider.
  8. by   NewJA
    Quote from Fionasmommy
    ...Living in AZ or anyother state and looking online isnt going to find you what you want unless you have a lot of money.
    I couldn't agree more.
  9. by   mercyteapot
    Quote from RNmommy
    Actually CA ranks 47th in the nation and Texas ranks 24th. Schools are a big deal when you have children, as it seems fionasmommy does. The beach isn't all that to a lot of people. There are only a select few, highly unaffordable, beach communities in SD I would ever choose tho live in.

    That's was the point I was trying to make, fionasmommy, it is very hard to OWN a home in San Diego. Unfortunately, renting a home is not something I would ever consider.
    Those are just aggregate numbers and don't really mean anything about individual school districts. My son's district is one of the best in the County and state. OTOH, I know of schools that perform abysmally. I will agree that CA should be ashamed of itself for what it spends on education and how it allows the schizm betwixt the haves and the have nots to exist and grow, but I'll put my school district up against the best Texas or any other state has to offer.
  10. by   RNmommy
    I don't disagree that there are some excellent schools in SD. Unfortunately, I could not afford a nice, big, new house in any of those school districts, like I can here. My house in Texas, with square footage and exemplary performing schools, would have easily cost us 800K-1M in San Diego. We paid a small fraction of that. And our city, which is near but not in Austin, has one of the lowest crime rates in the country.

    Don't think that I didn't think of everything before making a move this big. My dh and I are natives, we left our entire families there. We wanted to stay there. But, in the end it came down to lifestlye. I never wanted to work my butt off just to pay a mortgage on a 40 year old tract home east of I-15.
  11. by   smk1
    Liz were you an army brat? (lived many places...)

    I have never been to San Diego, but i love the idea of the beach and the temperate weather. Wages don't match the prices though so it isn't on the short list. I was amazed to see that several Texas areas did though! Austin, the dallas fort worth areas all are high on our list to visit and check out. California is vast and there have to be some cheap places around somewhere. I think Lizz hit the nail on the head about moving to the desert areas. When we drove from Palm Springs to Vegas this past summer, we passed so many tiny little towns that are somewhat commutable to a larger area. (also some that were not) Saw a little town called "victorville" (nothing really there though if I recall). Still, Calfornia real estate if bought at a reasonable price has got to be a fairly sound investment if you are near an area of growth. Now those that are taking out weird loans of 600k for a 1200 sq ft 1970's ranch...well, I worry for them...
  12. by   Sheri257
    Quote from SMK1
    I think Lizz hit the nail on the head about moving to the desert areas. When we drove from Palm Springs to Vegas this past summer, we passed so many tiny little towns that are somewhat commutable to a larger area. (also some that were not) Saw a little town called "victorville" (nothing really there though if I recall). Still, Calfornia real estate if bought at a reasonable price has got to be a fairly sound investment if you are near an area of growth. Now those that are taking out weird loans of 600k for a 1200 sq ft 1970's ranch...well, I worry for them...
    Actually, I live near Victorville in the town next door, Hesperia. There wasn't much here when we moved here three years ago but, there is now. In my neighborhood alone a third of the properties were vacant lots ... now they all have brand new houses on them.

    My house has doubled in value in three years, my commute is reasonable (even with increased traffic in the area). RN wages are up 30 percent and, even though it's desert, we usually (although certainly not always) get enough marine layer through the Cajon Pass to keep it relatively cool during the summers.

    But, in all honesty, ... is it still a dinky desert dirt redneck town? Hell yes. I'm not going to lie and say it's utopia yuppyville by any means ... far from it.

    Will it stay that way forever? Probably not. We actually have a sushi bar that's just opened in town ... never thought I'd see that for at least a few more years.

    Lots of chains are coming in: Starbucks, IHop, etc. have all built new outlets since we've been here and Target, WalMart and Home Depot are all building supercenters. Now ... if they could get a Claim Jumper restaurant and a Borders bookstore in town ... I'd be in heaven.

    The roads were really bad when we first moved here and it's still a major problem but, they have done a ton of new paving and traffic improvements. Nevertheless, traffic has gotten worse with all of the people moving here. So, they're now trying to improve two roads that go straight to the interstate so there will be better commute routes.

    The great paradox of road improvement, however, is that more people will move here and, ultimately, traffic will probably get worse because of it. But, that's always the case ... no matter where you live in California.

    The upside though is, hopefully, my home will be worth even more than it is now. And RN wages have really improved since I've moved here. There used to be a huge discrepancy between what you made up here versus down the hill but, that's not so much the case anymore.

    Ultimately ... the way I look at it is: Traffic = money. No traffic = no money.

    P.S. I wasn't an Army brat ... just moved around a lot when I was young and single. Once I got to California I (obviously) fell in love with the place.

    :typing
    Last edit by Sheri257 on Oct 14, '06
  13. by   Sheri257
    Quote from RNmommy
    Don't think that I didn't think of everything before making a move this big. My dh and I are natives, we left our entire families there. We wanted to stay there. But, in the end it came down to lifestlye. I never wanted to work my butt off just to pay a mortgage on a 40 year old tract home east of I-15.
    I could see why that would be even more of problem in San Diego. Yes, Orange County, LA, San Fran and all of the other coastal areas are very expensive but ... the RN wages are also a lot better there. For whatever reason, SD wages have always been low by comparision ... which would make living there even more difficult.

    :typing
    Last edit by Sheri257 on Oct 14, '06

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