Excelsior Student....

  1. 0 Hi All-

    I got into the middle of another thread on this topic and wanted some guidance from you fine folk in CA.
    I am working on my ADN thru Excelsior and am concerned because I realize CA's stand on EC grads.
    I don't live in California but who knows if I might ever end up there. (My wife is being treated for some medical problems and I have heard of peolpe going to other areas to receive other Tx).
    My question is this. If I were to have to locate there, would my Excelsior degree help me in any way in getting licensed? I see on the EC site that there are alot of colleges in CA that accept EC classes for credit but I did not know if the was nursing classes as well? What route would any of you take to get your RN there?
    I guess I would like to avoid starting from square one, and wondered if any of the work I am doing would help me.

    Thanks for any advice
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  4. Visit  suzanne4} profile page
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    Sorry but you would be out of luck in California. There is no way around it. This is why I tell everyone to be very sure about where they think that they will ever live.

    The is nothing that the schol can do, it isn't up to them, but the Board of Nursing. My advice? Go to a program that is recognized in all 50 states.
  5. Visit  RN34TX} profile page
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    At the present time, only if you enrolled with EC before some date in Dec. 2003 will you be allowed licensure.

    I'm eligible for licensure but am hesitant to move there as the comments here from CA people seem hostile toward EC grads. Nurses can be nasty enough without throwing that into the picture.
  6. Visit  Firemedic7} profile page
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    I guess my question is this- I wonder if you were to go there and have to complete another ADN would any of the colleges there give you cresit for your EC classes taken? I wouldn't figure that they would count all of them, but it seems nuts to start over because of a nursing board.
    Also, what if you to advance to say, CRNA school and then go to CA, are they going to look back at where you got your ADN and say, "Sorry you can't be licensed here because of where you started your career"?
    I am just curious now

    Thanks for everything
  7. Visit  suzanne4} profile page
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    For the CRNA, you will be getting a BSN more than likely...............then you are okay, as long is it was an approved program by them. And they could refuse to give you an advance practice license because of EC. It is their choice to make and they have final say............. I would go with a program that gives you more options........same as for CRNA program as well.
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    Quote from suzanne4
    For the CRNA, you will be getting a BSN more than likely...............then you are okay, as long is it was an approved program by them. And they could refuse to give you an advance practice license because of EC. It is their choice to make and they have final say............. I would go with a program that gives you more options........same as for CRNA program as well.
    Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions !!!
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    Quote from suzanne4
    For the CRNA, you will be getting a BSN more than likely...............then you are okay, as long is it was an approved program by them. And they could refuse to give you an advance practice license because of EC. It is their choice to make and they have final say............. I would go with a program that gives you more options........same as for CRNA program as well.
    I'm sorry if I seem slow.....
    but are saying if I were to take my Excelsior ADN and then go to California and get my BSN from an approved school, I could get licensed?
  10. Visit  suzanne4} profile page
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    Why have to wait another two years before you would be able to work as an RN....doesn't make any sense to me.........you need the experience under your belt for anesthesia school, then you have just added on another two years doing it your way. doens't make sense at all.
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    Quote from suzanne4
    Why have to wait another two years before you would be able to work as an RN....doesn't make any sense to me.........you need the experience under your belt for anesthesia school, then you have just added on another two years doing it your way. doens't make sense at all.
    I was just speaking hypothetically
    You have been a big help!!
  12. Visit  Pertlvn03} profile page
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    This is just a sad case! California would rather import nurses from another country SOME of them don't have much clinical experience than to hire our own citizens because of a few clinical hours? Some EC Grads are trained by the US Gov't. This is the only way that they can fast track RN bypassing traditional school. I say it's a sad case because if not for a few states that recognized their training an sacrifices for this nation the only work they can get when they decide to leave the military is a CNA, EMT or MA. Most BON does not recognize license obtained by chalenging the NCLEX. I know I called a few of them, you need a diploma from an accredited school to get endorsed. Never mind your years of experienced. Just my two cents and very sorry to vent.
  13. Visit  suzanne4} profile page
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    There are actually a few more states that are not accepting EC for the RN degree. Check your BON website very carefully. CA was actually quite honest up front when they changed the ruling, they permitted those that were already enrolled in the program by a certian date to be able to qualify for licensure in Ca. The stat4es that are now that permitting it have not been giving any leeway with a cut-off date.

    California actually is more lenient than many other states on what they will accept. A corpsman can sit for the LPN exam..........an LPN can take the 30 unit program and be able to sit for their RN, and that one is aonly accepted in CA, not be any other state.

    I only suggest that you attend a program that is recognized in all fifty states, especially when you never know if you are going to move or not. There are bridge programs that are accepted in all fifity states and no issues come up with licensure after completing them.
  14. Visit  RN34TX} profile page
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    Quote from suzanne4
    There are actually a few more states that are not accepting EC for the RN degree. Check your BON website very carefully. CA was actually quite honest up front when they changed the ruling, they permitted those that were already enrolled in the program by a certian date to be able to qualify for licensure in Ca. The stat4es that are now that permitting it have not been giving any leeway with a cut-off date.

    California actually is more lenient than many other states on what they will accept. A corpsman can sit for the LPN exam..........an LPN can take the 30 unit program and be able to sit for their RN, and that one is aonly accepted in CA, not be any other state.

    I only suggest that you attend a program that is recognized in all fifty states, especially when you never know if you are going to move or not. There are bridge programs that are accepted in all fifity states and no issues come up with licensure after completing them.
    Kansas and Illinois.
    Who else?
    I keep hearing about "several or many other states" but am not aware of any others.
    I'm not asking about states that require you to be an LPN first, I'm asking about states that have banned EC altogether.
    Who else?
  15. Visit  RN34TX} profile page
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    Quote from suzanne4
    California actually is more lenient than many other states on what they will accept. A corpsman can sit for the LPN exam..........an LPN can take the 30 unit program and be able to sit for their RN, and that one is aonly accepted in CA, not be any other state.
    There is a lot more to the story than that. Not quite that simple.
    First of all, CA's ADN programs do not give any automatic recognition for LPN/LVN training like most other states.
    Everything in the ADN program that an LVN intends to bipass must be challenged by exam, from Nursing 101 on up. Absolutely no credit is given to LVN's for their training, it must be earned through examination.
    Many LVN's end up basically starting all over from the beginning if they can't pass the challenge exams.

    Second, I've also looked into the 30 unit option and it too is a rip off. They make it sound like a fast track to RN licensure but the 30 unit option does little more than cut out a few general ed's like speech and electives.
    Then, if you do go this route and obtain RN licensure, not only are you locked into CA because it won't be recognized for endorsement into other states,
    the CA community colleges will not let you go back and take those general ed courses to get your associate's degree. You're stuck.


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