Applying to Sacramento State's ASBSN Summer 2008 - page 4

Hey! I just wanted to know if there is anyone else applying to Sacramento State's ASBSN program. I'm just waiting on my Fall 2007 grades before I get my application in. I'm pretty nervous! I just... Read More

  1. by   GratefulHeart
    Quote from kitsune01
    I have a relatively frivolous question for any current sac state students browsing this thread - the student handbook says you have to wear "white uniform pants" and no jeans or corduroy. Are you allowed to have pants with cargo pockets, and can you get away with the kind of scrub pants that look like normal pants rather than pj's?
    One of my friends wears cargo scrub pants, and I wear uniform pants that look (and feel) like normal pants.
  2. by   kitsune01
    Thanks, I was worried when they said "uniform pants" they wouldn't allow scrub pants or pants with cargo pockets. I NEED cargo pockets
  3. by   JakeyWakey
    Just a quick question for any present or past students.

    Do they have clinicals on Saturdays at all? I'm trying to set up a small 4 hour shift at my current job on Saturday mornings. I don't want to work anymore than that, but since I currently work as a hospital lab assistant I feel it would be beneficial to stay familiar with current lab tests and keep my phlebotomy skills fresh during school.

    Does this seem like a reasonable expectation for myself? I know they recommend not working, but I couldn't' see 4 hours hurting too much?

    Thanks!
    Jake
  4. by   megamiepona
    Quote from Miss Mab
    Congrats on your acceptances!

    Megamie and Kitsune, you both mentioned such an important plus in favor of the ABSN route.

    It's a slim hearty few who are able to choose and commit to an APN specialty before truly being exposed on a professional level. I wish more direct entrys let students switch if interests change. Seems to be a minority group that do so.

    Rather than actively disliking the original track, what I saw a lot of in my program was students instead finding that they were now wanting to pursue an APN focus they never even remotely thought they'd be interested in. I'm talking CNM's pleading to switch to PMHNP, for example. Ah, there's always post master's certs. if that indeed comes up I guess. I'm all about the options

    Anyway, good luck on your studies as you eventually pursue MSN. Don't know if it'll necessarily be the case for you guys but, as an added bonus, you've now likely widened your MSN school net by going this route. BSN in hand you can now bypass the artifically impacted MEPN hoops and matriculate pretty much wherever you want for your advanced education. Provided you do well of course!

    Just can't imagine many would then choose SF State over UCSF when they can get now easily get into either.
    Again, congrats and enjoy the journey...
    Thanks Ms Mabs! I actually never really considered obtaining a BSN first before my Masters while I was applying, which is why I ended up applying to 3 MSN programs and 1 ABSN program. But after reading through some threads from this forum, I realized that an ABSN program is much more suitable for me and am really glad I applied to at least 1 ABSN program that I got accepted into! :P
  5. by   megamiepona
    I have a question regarding financial aid from Sac State. I just checked the status of my financial aid on the MySacState website and it indicates that my status as a 2nd bachelor's degree pursuer makes me ineligible for financial aid. I thought we are eligible for federal Stafford loans assuming that we haven't reached the cap of I believe $47,000 while pursuing our 1st bachelor's (which I'm very far from)?? Do I have to file an appeal in order to possibly receive Stafford loans? Anyways, I'm going to give the financial aid office a call regarding this issue, but in the mean time, any advice would be great. Thanks.

    Also, for those of you who are living off campus, where do you plan to live? I'm going to start looking for a place to stay that is close to campus but am not certain about where to look aside from Craigslist and through my friend of friends.
  6. by   Om3155
    I understood the same as you with regards to student loans, as long as you have not met the limit you are good. Maybe call the fin aid office and ask? I'd be curious to know if we are correct in our assumptions.
  7. by   Om3155
    Ok so I just called the FAFSA people and basically if you already have a bachelor's degree but no graduate degree you should be able to get loans for a second bachelors. If you have a graduate degree there is no going back to the undergraduate degree loan pool. I have not confirmed this with Sac State y
  8. by   megamiepona
    Quote from Om3155
    Ok so I just called the FAFSA people and basically if you already have a bachelor's degree but no graduate degree you should be able to get loans for a second bachelors. If you have a graduate degree there is no going back to the undergraduate degree loan pool. I have not confirmed this with Sac State y
    I just spoke with an FA counselor yesterday regarding this matter and they said that due to the fact that fed loans are limited, they automatically disqualify 2nd bachelor pursuers from obtaining FA. Even after mentioning the ~$47,000 lifetime cap on fed loans for undergraduates, he still said that I will still have to file an appeal that demonstrates extenuating circumstances that are outside of my control. So this means that there is no guarantee that I will get federal loans. But I'll give it a shot anyway.
  9. by   RNTrixie
    I am currently in the ASBSN program at Sac State. I just wanted to address a few things. Someone mentioned that they wanted to work a few hours on Saturdays... BAD idea. You have no idea when your clinicals will be. June was all class room work, about 40 hours a week of sitting in a desk... then going home to sit at the computer for a few more hours. July is when you start clinicals. One thing about this program is you have to remain flexible. You may not know your clinical schedule until 2 weeks before are expected to be there. It could be any day of the week, so don't commit to anything during your 15 months in school.

    Also, I wanted to comment on financial aid. It is true that they do not give out aid to 2nd degree students. The appeal process is kind of lengthy and a pain in the butt, but I encourage you to at least try. Some people were denied aid even after the appeal process and I wasn't. I basically explained why my 1st degree is useless in the Sacramento area and I was granted a few loans.

    Good luck to you all!! You will do fine, but BE FLEXIBLE from the beginning and it will be much less stressful.
  10. by   megamiepona
    Quote from RNTrixie
    I am currently in the ASBSN program at Sac State. I just wanted to address a few things. Someone mentioned that they wanted to work a few hours on Saturdays... BAD idea. You have no idea when your clinicals will be. June was all class room work, about 40 hours a week of sitting in a desk... then going home to sit at the computer for a few more hours. July is when you start clinicals. One thing about this program is you have to remain flexible. You may not know your clinical schedule until 2 weeks before are expected to be there. It could be any day of the week, so don't commit to anything during your 15 months in school.

    Also, I wanted to comment on financial aid. It is true that they do not give out aid to 2nd degree students. The appeal process is kind of lengthy and a pain in the butt, but I encourage you to at least try. Some people were denied aid even after the appeal process and I wasn't. I basically explained why my 1st degree is useless in the Sacramento area and I was granted a few loans.

    Good luck to you all!! You will do fine, but BE FLEXIBLE from the beginning and it will be much less stressful.
    Thanks for your advice RNTrixie. I hope you're doing well in your program. I agree with you regarding giving the fin aid appeal a shot. I've been working on my appeal letter since last night and will be submitting it very soon. I'm gonna cross my fingers and legs in hope that they will grant my appeal.

    By the way, how do you like the ABSN program thus far? I see that you are approaching your 1 year mark. How many hours did you start off with for clinicals? What kind of advice would you offer to us on how to prepare for this program? Also, I know you mentioned that we shouldn't commit to anything during this program, but were you able to find time to rest or visit family and friends during any part of the program? Thanks!
    Last edit by megamiepona on Mar 26, '08
  11. by   RNTrixie
    I am definitely coming up to the one year mark and it was a LONG journey! There is a ton of work and studying to do while you are in school, so PLEASE do not do anything to prepare before you start. You will learn everything you need to know once you start school. Clean your house really well... hang out with your friends and family... do whatever it is that you will not have time to do when school starts. With that said, you will only find time to see your friends and family if you make time. It was really hard for me at first because I was a stay at home mom for the first 15 months of my son's life. Then all of a sudden I was thrown into a full time schedule. By full time schedule, I mean about 50 hours a week for class time, clinicals, studying, assignments, driving, etc. It took me almost the entire summer to realize that cutting out time with my family or exercise or whatever just isn't worth it. You will be burnt out faster than you think if you don't maintain somewhat of a normal life.

    For summer clinicals, I was working Monday and Tuesday PM shifts (2:45-11:15pm). So that means I had to drive to the hospital on Sundays and do an 8 hour prep for the patient I picked. In the fall, it was pretty much the same schedule, except I picked 2 patients on Saturday and worked on Sunday and Monday. That is why I say be very flexible. Don't commit to anything, but you have no idea what kind of schedule you will have. You may have weekend or weekday clinicals. The problem is that CSUS is competing with Sac City, ARC, Sierra, Samuel Merritt, and some outlying community colleges for clinical time in the hospital. If you have to be there on Saturdays, then just assume that the school did the best they could to get you clinical time.

    I hope some of this helps!! I had a busy week, so I apologize for not responding for a few days.
  12. by   megamiepona
    Quote from RNTrixie
    I am definitely coming up to the one year mark and it was a LONG journey! There is a ton of work and studying to do while you are in school, so PLEASE do not do anything to prepare before you start. You will learn everything you need to know once you start school. Clean your house really well... hang out with your friends and family... do whatever it is that you will not have time to do when school starts. With that said, you will only find time to see your friends and family if you make time. It was really hard for me at first because I was a stay at home mom for the first 15 months of my son's life. Then all of a sudden I was thrown into a full time schedule. By full time schedule, I mean about 50 hours a week for class time, clinicals, studying, assignments, driving, etc. It took me almost the entire summer to realize that cutting out time with my family or exercise or whatever just isn't worth it. You will be burnt out faster than you think if you don't maintain somewhat of a normal life.

    For summer clinicals, I was working Monday and Tuesday PM shifts (2:45-11:15pm). So that means I had to drive to the hospital on Sundays and do an 8 hour prep for the patient I picked. In the fall, it was pretty much the same schedule, except I picked 2 patients on Saturday and worked on Sunday and Monday. That is why I say be very flexible. Don't commit to anything, but you have no idea what kind of schedule you will have. You may have weekend or weekday clinicals. The problem is that CSUS is competing with Sac City, ARC, Sierra, Samuel Merritt, and some outlying community colleges for clinical time in the hospital. If you have to be there on Saturdays, then just assume that the school did the best they could to get you clinical time.

    I hope some of this helps!! I had a busy week, so I apologize for not responding for a few days.
    Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to respond to me RNTrixie! It's great to hear that you have things under control. I've always admired FT moms who are able to juggle school and family life. Congrats to you for nearing your 1 year mark! Wish you the best of luck with the rest of the program!
  13. by   biltz
    Wow, I'm glad my friend told me about this thread!! I'm in the ABSN Summer 2008 program also. I'm waiting to hear from USD's MSN program also but I think that I will end up attending Sac State nonetheless. I have lots of questions... I hope you are all still hanging on this thread..

    To those of you already in the program - what type of hand-held electronic devices are you using in clinicals - i.e. PDA's, Treos, iPhones, smart phones, etc. Are you using your own or do the hospitals provide PDA's for the drugs?

    Also, what is the situation with books? My friends in the nursing program at CSU East Bay Concord said that the nursing program there worked with the publisher and all the professors to coordinate the books that are used in the program so that there is no redundancy in ordering books. All the students order all their books as a package at the beginning of the program and all the professors use all the books in all the classes. There are no unused or unnecessary books. Also, because they are bundled, the publisher puts them all on CD for you and you can download ALL the books onto your laptop and therefore don't have to tote all your books around. Does CSUS nursing program do anything like that?

    How dependent are you guys on your laptops for studying? I've got a pretty good HP but it's somewhat heavy. I'm thinking of investing in one of the new MAC Air. Do you think it's worth the investment?

    Where do you do most of your studying? Home? School? ...on the run? are you on campus much? I know that you are involved in studying 24/7 but do you have any days set aside for just study - i.e. no scheduled classes, labs or clinicals? do you ever get two days in a row off? Also, my brother is getting married down in the Bay Area the 3rd weekend of the program. Do you think I am going to be able to get away for it or do you think I have to tell my family that they are going to have to get a cardboard cutout of me for the family photo?

    I'm getting the same answer as you guys regarding financial aid. I'm very confused though. I also applied to CSUEB and was accepted into Samuel Merrit's ABSN program and both of them gave me a financial aid package that included both subsidized and unsubsidized Stafford loans. I brought that up to the FA counselor at Sac State and they gave me some bogus answer. I feel like I still have not gotten down to the bottom of this. I don't understand why a private school and another CSU is able to give me financial aid but CSUS isn't.

    How is parking at CSUS? I'm thinking of trying to find a place to live somewhere along the path of the free shuttle. How is that system? Is it worth planning to live along it or is it a mess?

    For those of you in the 2008 program - would you be interested in starting a Yahoo group? I started one for the Samuel Merritt ABSN program once I got accepted and pretty much the whole class joined up. it worked well and lots of people started to form carpools, roommates, started asking questions, taking polls etc.... If you are interested, I can set one up.... just send me your email addy.... kpbilse@yahoo.com

    That's all for now. Congrats to all of you on getting accepted. Can't wait to meet you all!!!

    Kurt

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