Acclerated BSN programs in CA - page 3

Hello! I was wondering if anyone out there is in an accelerated BSN program in California? If so, how do you like it? If you could, would you do the 2 year RN route? I have a BS in biology and am... Read More

  1. by   dijaqrn
    Check out Ca State Long Beach. Bakersfield also. Good luck.
  2. by   cd_y
    Mount Saint Mary's college in Los Angeles has an accelerated BSN program. Their web site can be found online at http://www.msmc.la.edu/pages/1.asp.
  3. by   saral_123
    Quote from berkeleymom
    amy_123,

    i started another thread asking about the kaiser-smc absn loan repayment plan, so here is the link.

    http://allnurses.com/forums/f137/kai...ne-204621.html

    this is not offered for elmsn graduates, as nps are not in high demand like rns are. there are some alternative programs for nps that usually involve working with medically underserved populations.

    there is something called national health service corps that has a loan forgiveness program, although i am not sure how available those positions are.

    http://nhsc.bhpr.hrsa.gov/

    in addition the elmsn program at smc only offers 2 tracks--fnp and cm (case management). as you probably know, ucsf has many more specialty np tracks--something to think about if you know you want peds or women's health specifically.

    i am waiting to hear back about the absn and elmsn program at smc right now. my only concern witht the elmsn is the cost/debt.

    would you mind sharing more about why your counselor is advising the direct entry route? what is his reason for doing it?

    thanks!
    --berk


    hello,

    sorry for the delayed response. i've been without a computer for the past month now. so forgive me. i am still checking out acc bsn programs, but am swaying more towards the 2 year rn route because of cost. i just found out that i am eligible for student loans at the local jc and cost is what is really preventing me from going through a absn program. in addition, if i do complete the 2 year rn route and work for a couple years, the rn license will allow more opportunities in getting into a uc.

    as side from that. to answer your question, my couselor is still advising me to go the np route because he has said it'll be an easier route for me. if np is what i know that i want to do, i should just shoot the gun and just go for it. he has always encouraged me to go to the highest degree, but i'm still wavering. i am not sure if he has compared job demand (rn vs np), but i've told him that i wanted to work more in a clinical setting and i believe this is why he's suggesting the np route.

    i hope this helps. good luck! and thanks for the website.
  4. by   saral_123
    Quote from nursinguy
    Pediatrics is hard to get into. My nurse friend who is male said wait times for female nurses is anywhere from 8-10 years at the hospital he works at.

    What do you mean by this? (just a question) :spin: I have a friend who finished her RN and after 1 year of experience, she is working in peds now. Please advise....thanks.
  5. by   nursinguy
    Quote from amy_123
    What do you mean by this? (just a question) :spin: I have a friend who finished her RN and after 1 year of experience, she is working in peds now. Please advise....thanks.
    My friend who is a nurse right out of nursing school got into peds over female nurses waiting 5 years or so. The wait for female nurses to get into peds at the hospital were he works at is very long and males get in right out of nursing school.
  6. by   nursinguy
    Quote from luvmyboys
    The ELM still gets the same number of clinical hours. The difference is we go to school in the summer and also take more theory classes along with our clinical classes that would otherwise be in a different semester. For example we are taking Pediatrics and OB this semester - which is what the regular BSN program does - but in our case we are also taking a nursing reasoning class. That class would normally be taken in the 6th semester.


    Aye.

    After talking to my ex-clasemate who is in the ELM program... while you guys may have the same # of clinical hours, you guys do not have the same busy-work requirments and comparable amount of class time. That is were the concerns come from.
  7. by   BonnieSc
    I don't know what you mean. They take the exact same classes in ELM, as far as I've ever heard.
  8. by   nursinguy
    Quote from Wendy79
    I don't know what you mean. They take the exact same classes in ELM, as far as I've ever heard.
    Same class but the instructor has cut the normal work load down.

    Also the 16 units ELM took over summer would = 41 hours a week of class time if it was the exact same class hours over a regular semester, this is not including clinical time either. Add in clinical and you have 50 hours a week and another 50 in study time and the mass amount of time it takes to do all the busy work, quizes, readings, online assignments, assesments, group presentations, research for papers, etc. So 100 hours a week min divided by 7= 14.25 hours per day. Add in time to get to class, clinical, time to eat, drink, take a shower, get dressed = 4 hours a day. That would mean you get to sleep 2 to 4 hours a day and no breaks for 2 months. This is why the classes are not exactly the same, it would be difficult to do this!
    Last edit by dianah on Jul 7, '09 : Reason: Removed off-topic comment.
  9. by   BerkeleyMom
    Quote from BerkeleyMom
    amy_123
    I just wanted to let you know that Samuel Merritt has a program with Kaiser regarding loan repayment. I just got a letter in the mail about it. For the 2008 ABSN graduates that agree to work for a Northern California Kaiser for 2 years, Kaiser will pay off $25,000 of the loan. That is over half of the cost of the program.

    I just read here that SMC ABSN program is highly competitive to get into. I am not sure that is true considering it is a new program and they now offer it in 4 locations--Oakland, Sacramento, SF, and the Peninsula. If they take 50 per location (I think), then they are accepting 200 applicants. That is a lot for a program that is so new.

    Just something to think about--good luck!

    I just wanted to correct my post as it seems I may have been off. The ABSN program at SMC is highly competitive! There are 57 people on the waitlist for the Oakland campus alone.

    Not to discourage anyone out there, but I think anyone who wants to go to nursing school should throw themself out there and apply to multiple programs!
  10. by   BonnieSc
    Quote from nursinguy
    Same class but the instructor has cut the normal work load down.

    Also the 16 units ELM took over summer would = 41 hours a week of class time if it was the exact same class hours over a regular semester, this is not including clinical time either. Add in clinical and you have 50 hours a week and another 50 in study time and the mass amount of time it takes to do all the busy work, quizes, readings, online assignments, assesments, group presentations, research for papers, etc. So 100 hours a week min divided by 7= 14.25 hours per day. Add in time to get to class, clinical, time to eat, drink, take a shower, get dressed = 4 hours a day. That would mean you get to sleep 2 to 4 hours a day and no breaks for 2 months. This is why the classes are not exactly the same, it would be difficult to do this!
    This is simply not true. The workload and amount of class time is the SAME for both the accelerated/ELM program and the regular BSN program. I can't figure out how you arrived at your numbers, but in any case, it doesn't matter because they aren't factual.

    So if you're looking at entering the accelerated program at Sac State, or you're a nurse concerned that these students aren't receiving an adequate education, rest assured that the education is the same (just compressed into a smaller amount of time).
    Last edit by dianah on Jul 7, '09 : Reason: Removed off-topic comment.
  11. by   nursinguy
    Quote from Wendy79
    This is simply not true. The workload and amount of class time is the SAME for both the accelerated/ELM program and the regular BSN program. I can't figure out how you arrived at your numbers, but in any case, it doesn't matter because they aren't factual.

    So if you're looking at entering the accelerated program at Sac State, or you're a nurse concerned that these students aren't receiving an adequate education, rest assured that the education is the same (just compressed into a smaller amount of time).
    If you condense the regular class hours over the reg semester into 16 weeks for summer 2006 you get aprox 40 hours a week of class time. So the numbers for summer are correct or they cut down the program for ELM.
  12. by   BonnieSc
    (I don't know why I'm doing this... I guess because I dislike misinformation and rumor...)

    The regular class hours if you take first and second semester together amount to approximately 22 hours per week. I don't know how long the summer term is, but the regular semester is also 16 weeks, so if the summer term is 16 weeks it's the same amount of time. They have not cut down the program in any way. They couldn't keep their accreditation if they did!

    The accelerated bachelor's / ELM program is challenging, and there aren't many long breaks, but it is definitely doable--as, I'm sure, the many students currently in the program who will graduate at the end of the summer can tell you.
    Last edit by BonnieSc on Mar 16, '07
  13. by   nursinguy
    Quote from Wendy79
    (I don't know why I'm doing this... I guess because I dislike misinformation and rumor...)

    The regular class hours if you take first and second semester together amount to approximately 22 hours per week. I don't know how long the summer term is, but the regular semester is also 16 weeks, so if the summer term is 16 weeks it's the same amount of time. They have not cut down the program in any way. They couldn't keep their accreditation if they did!

    The accelerated bachelor's / ELM program is challenging, and there aren't many long breaks, but it is definitely doable--as, I'm sure, the many students currently in the program who will graduate at the end of the summer can tell you.
    My mistake, summer I believe is about 9-10 weeks so that is why I aprox around 40 hours a week of class time for summer.

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