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No. 30
Old Apr 03, 2009, 01:32 PM
Updated Apr 03, 2009 at 02:08 PM by multicollinearity

Default Re: Apollo College Associates Degree Program
Originally Posted by kf15 View Post
Hey read this thread for some details: allnurses.com/general-nursing-student/nlnac-vs-ccne-187100.html
These competing accreditations may have more to do w/ politics and what BSN schools will accept your apollo degree if you decide to move on; since 2 schools already accept, and if that's OK w/ you to do your BSN online, then you have no worries.
New York is not a compact state, so if you're gonna move there after becoming an RN here then you should contact their state Bd of Nursing for details about what you'd need to do to work there.
That post about Scottsdale "not hiring" students from that school may have nothing to do w/ accreditation, a licensed RN is a licensed RN.
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss accreditation issues as "political." Accreditation is a stamp of approval that one's nursing school has met certain minimum standards. ADN programs tend to seek NLN accreditation and BSN programs tend to go for CCNE accreditation. As I'm graduating soon, I surf nursing employment ads all the time. While doing this, I do see ads saying applicants' nursing schools must have been accredited by NLN or CCNE. Here's just one example among many that I came across today:

http://www.ihs.gov/jobscareerdevelop...sr=51&jb=28118

R.N. CHARGE NURSE - 1 Positions
Salary Range: ($46,812 - $60,858)
Location:San Manuel Clinic (San Bernardino, Ca.)

Graduated of a NLN Accredited School of Nursing. Current active California license as a Registered Nurse, and a current CPR certification.
Now it's your choice if you decide to attend a program like Apollo. It is true that not all employers require your nursing education to be from an NLN or CCNE accredited school. However, it is 'funny' when people post the issue on the board asking for opinions - and then shoot down every issue of concern.
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No. 31
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Old Apr 03, 2009, 06:37 PM

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It's been a good discussion, I don't think anyone has "shot down" or dismissed the accred issue. There are so many variables to consider when choosing an ADN pgm, on top of the maddening wait list issue, then on top of that add the variables of what colleges will/will not accept different accreditations. Then there's the lousy economy that confront every one of us, and what difficulties will graduates face?
Personally I think the cost of getting the RN degree is of most concern right now, it's amazing how many "rqmts" are brushed aside by the decision makers when they feel they have found the right person with the proper experience for the job, when that time comes.
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No. 32
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Old Apr 04, 2009, 12:09 AM

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Thanks very much...great info. This is all good input. My comments were not meant to sound pejorative; I'm not sure what, in particular, was perceived as dismissive. I am merely looking for a variety of viewpoints and to tap the cumulative knowledge of the forum participants.
Kf15: Yes, good link and I did read it. I keep coming up with questions...the further I dig, the more questions I have. Like: When job postings state that the RN must be a "graduate of an accredited nursing institution" and they don't state the accrediting agency, which one(s) are they referring to? Is this just for jobs that are looking for a BSN RN?
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No. 33
Old Apr 04, 2009, 12:24 AM

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From TMC:

Minimum Qualifications: Graduation from a qualified, nationally-accredited nursing program;
From Carondelet (3 hospitals in town):
Required: Graduation from an accredited School of Nursing
It just says accredited, so they may or may not be specific as to which accreditation.

If I were you, I'd call the HR depts at the hospitals and ask then which accrediting agency they are using...
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No. 34
Old Apr 04, 2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kf15 View Post
It's been a good discussion, I don't think anyone has "shot down" or dismissed the accred issue.
You may be right. I've been speed-reading (bad) and may have assumed this thread had gone the way of many others just like it. Threads start to blur together over the years, LOL!
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No. 35
from 98KB01NEWB
Old Oct 21, 2009, 11:52 AM

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Curious to know what you decided to do? I read this thread because I too am in a similar situation. I'm 33 and I have my BS in Accounting. I have worked in the Accounting field for 15+ years. I have noticed that companies are now "down selling" their accounting positions to clerk positions with clerk pay. I was laid off in March and I haven't been able to find anything since.... it's tough out there. I decided a very long time ago that I would one day like to go back to school for Nursing. Apollo is quick but the cost is what is eating me up & not real sure if it's justifiable in my mind. I would love to know what you decided to do. I am new to the boards and I too have been doing a LOT of research before I make any decisions.
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No. 36
Old Nov 15, 2009, 11:34 AM

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I've seen this argument over the years that I've been posting on this board. I personally think Apollo is a waste of money. You caN get an ADN from a CC for around $6000 and if you work it the right way, you won't have the huge wait that most people have. OR you can go to a 4 yr college and get a BSN for around the same cost as Apollo (maybe even less expense). There are ways to get into the 4 yr colleges without a huge wait and you'll have a BSN when you're finished, just one step ahead of everyone else. Where I work they won't hire Apollo grads. People who graduate from Apollo think that it has a good reputation, but it really doesn't. I've asked around (my friend is considering going there) and the consensus among the RN's I work with is that the school really isn't that good. Sure you may be able to pass the NCLEX but as a new hire skills are really important too. JMHO
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No. 37
from kf15
Old Nov 17, 2009, 05:30 PM

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I find it hard to believe that a school's reputation is more important during hiring than the totality of the Rn graduate sitting in the chair. While Apollo may have a less than stellar rep in the Phx area, my potential initial employer and I were too busy during our interview discussing my skills and experience and what I could do for them, than what school I had attended in order to get to, and pass, Nclex. Besides you'd be amazed at how many people don't even care where you went, it's easy enough to tell the intelligence and competence level of the grad by speaking w/ them, and not by those who taught the classes.
The pgm there has become seriously overpriced, as have all private 2 yr schools, so I got mine quite "cheaper" but I got into the market just before the hiring crash, so I have to say that it was well worth the $$ to not still be sitting on wait lists..... I've heard that most CCs now reqire CNA before you can get into the Rn pgm, so yet another span of time tossed onto the wait list.
Personally I would not waste my time on a BSN if I planned to stay in AZ; but w/ employment outlook dropping still, 1 has to weigh spending more $$ vs waiting to get into the field, where experience is far more imp than anything.

Originally Posted by Calzonan RN View Post
I've seen this argument over the years that I've been posting on this board. I personally think Apollo is a waste of money. You caN get an ADN from a CC for around $6000 and if you work it the right way, you won't have the huge wait that most people have. OR you can go to a 4 yr college and get a BSN for around the same cost as Apollo (maybe even less expense). There are ways to get into the 4 yr colleges without a huge wait and you'll have a BSN when you're finished, just one step ahead of everyone else. Where I work they won't hire Apollo grads. People who graduate from Apollo think that it has a good reputation, but it really doesn't. I've asked around (my friend is considering going there) and the consensus among the RN's I work with is that the school really isn't that good. Sure you may be able to pass the NCLEX but as a new hire skills are really important too. JMHO
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