Pre-reqs change MCC - page 2

It seems they changed pre-reqs and there are only 5 classes now. BIO202 and BIO205 are co-reqs now as well as ENG101.... Read More

  1. by   GilbertDaddy
    Oh my God, this is amazing!!!

    I was getting bummed because I still had to take BIO156 before taking BIO201.

    Then I completely forgot that I _DID_ take Biology in high school, it was Chemistry I dropped.

    So now it looks like I can take BIO201 and CHM130 and finish my pre-reqs in a single semester instead of 3


    Wow.. I'm so nervous now.. This is fantastic news :spin:

    The most annoying part of all this is the wait to get into the program.. this gives me 8 months off the wait, even if it is a year or so. The sooner I was able to get the app IN, the better.
    Last edit by GilbertDaddy on Dec 20, '07
  2. by   Glina
    Since I only have CHM130 left, does anybody know if you have to take it if you had chemistry in high school? I had it in high school for 3 years and elementary school (4 years), but that was back in Europe. Do I have to take CHM130 then? I still have my transcripts from high school. Do I test out or should I just bring my transcripts to advisor?
  3. by   Knorremeisje
    I also took chemistry in High School in Europa... however they need your grade from high school and I haven't found a single company that will evaluate your high school grades. And believe me, I tried. I sent in my grade cards and my diploma and paid the $140, but all I got back was a statement in English that I had graduated from high school.

    MCC doesn't accept this, even though in Belgium you cannot graduate from high school without taking at least three years of chemistry. Also, eventually I want to get my Masters, so I'd have to take the class anyway for the ASU program...

    Please let me know if they let you credit out of the class. I'd love to know how!
  4. by   Glina
    I sure will try and let you know.
  5. by   West Valley
    I wish I can take both Bio 201 and Chm 130 this semester, then I could apply in May but I guess I can just take Chm over the summer. This puts me in a better spot, but I am sure this puts tons of other applicants in a better spot also....hopefully this doesn't turn into a nightmare with the waiting list.
  6. by   Knorremeisje
    Let's look at it this way - why would MCC make such drastic changes if they were not changing something in the actual program as well? They will be timestamping applications 6 times a year now. I would also think that they hired maybe more RN educators and will be able to accept a couple more applications each semester. It really would make no sense at all to cut down on the pre-req's like this, if they were not prepared for a truckload of pre-nursing candidates to show up.

    At least I try to stay positive!!
  7. by   Glina
    I agree. Let's hope :spin:
  8. by   West Valley
    I'm hoping that's the case
  9. by   GilbertDaddy
    Quote from Knorremeisje
    Let's look at it this way - why would MCC make such drastic changes if they were not changing something in the actual program as well? They will be timestamping applications 6 times a year now. I would also think that they hired maybe more RN educators and will be able to accept a couple more applications each semester. It really would make no sense at all to cut down on the pre-req's like this, if they were not prepared for a truckload of pre-nursing candidates to show up.

    At least I try to stay positive!!


    That would indeed be excellent news. Although like you pointed out, it doesn't seem like they'd change something so important if they weren't seeing an issue with the current system.

    The changes still smell of a nursing shortage, so I'm curious how the market is right now for RNs in the valley.

    I'll be able to apply in May now, so now I need to re-read up on all the details of application. Can you do it to multiple colleges, which ones are best, which have the least wait, if you can apply to multiple places, can you be put on multiple waiting lists, etc.

    Also I don't imagine that you CAN'T take co-reqs while waiting for your application? That would mean this change basically just allows for us to apply earlier and not have to take a break for school?

    Off to search lol
  10. by   Knorremeisje
    No advisor will ever tell you that the wait at a certain school is shorter than at another. I don't even think they can access that kind of information. You increase your chances of getting picked faster by giving up as many schools of choice as possible, right now I believe that is five. You can also apply to other partnerships, for example the Banner Nurse Fellows program, SHC also has a program for employees, same as John C. Lincoln and Boswell.

    Also, while you wait to get admitted to a program, continue to take classes! First all the co-req's; BIO202, BIO202, ENG101, ENG102, HUM, etc. If you're still not admitted after finishing those, start taking the rest of the pre-req's for the ASU program. Most of those classes will be in the nursing program anyways, so they'll give you an advantage. ASU does not have a waiting list, but the admissions are competitive. Any GPA's below 3.0 don't really stand a chance.

    I really do think there is still a nursing shortage, especially when you consider all those babyboomers are retiring or planning to retire within the next 5-10 years. It's a comfort knowing that once you graduate as an RN - you WILL get hired, there's no question about that.
  11. by   GilbertDaddy
    Quote from Knorremeisje
    No advisor will ever tell you that the wait at a certain school is shorter than at another. I don't even think they can access that kind of information. You increase your chances of getting picked faster by giving up as many schools of choice as possible, right now I believe that is five. You can also apply to other partnerships, for example the Banner Nurse Fellows program, SHC also has a program for employees, same as John C. Lincoln and Boswell.

    Also, while you wait to get admitted to a program, continue to take classes! First all the co-req's; BIO202, BIO202, ENG101, ENG102, HUM, etc. If you're still not admitted after finishing those, start taking the rest of the pre-req's for the ASU program. Most of those classes will be in the nursing program anyways, so they'll give you an advantage. ASU does not have a waiting list, but the admissions are competitive. Any GPA's below 3.0 don't really stand a chance.

    I really do think there is still a nursing shortage, especially when you consider all those babyboomers are retiring or planning to retire within the next 5-10 years. It's a comfort knowing that once you graduate as an RN - you WILL get hired, there's no question about that.

    Heh, healthcare is at least not an artificial boom like the IT and real estate booms I've been in and worked during!

    Am I able to take any classes in the nursing program previous to acceptance? Or only if they are pre-reqs for the BSN? I wasn't sure if being in the nursing "program" was just a pre-req for taking the NCLEX and licensing, or if there were classes you simply couldn't take unless you were admitted.

    Do you know if the limit is 5 schools PLUS partnerships? Or 5 total? I'm interested in BNF program, although I am not sure if I can support my kids and work there at the same time Daycare and all that gets pricey..


    I just found out that I _DO_ have to take BIO156 (I guess HS classes are useless 5 years post-graduation and I'm running up on 10 now), so that puts me back a semester, but this change to the pre-reqs at least knocks out that last lonely semester with JUST BIO202.
  12. by   Knorremeisje
    I don't think you are able to take the actual nursing classes without being in the program. They want to keep the class size very limited to ensure quality. So you can not take any NUR classes.

    I believe that it is 5 PLUS partnerships. At least for the Banner program, because you have to have applied to the MCC nursing programs before you can even apply to the Banner program. However, I am not 100% about that.

    The Banner program is tough from what I've heard. It's an accelerated program, so it will only take 16 months, but it's hard to combine with working full-time. I don't know if you're interested in private schools at all, but Ethel Bauer (IIA) has free on-site daycare for their nursing school students. However, I have heard many different opinions on the program.
  13. by   GilbertDaddy
    Quote from Knorremeisje
    I don't think you are able to take the actual nursing classes without being in the program. They want to keep the class size very limited to ensure quality. So you can not take any NUR classes.

    I believe that it is 5 PLUS partnerships. At least for the Banner program, because you have to have applied to the MCC nursing programs before you can even apply to the Banner program. However, I am not 100% about that.

    The Banner program is tough from what I've heard. It's an accelerated program, so it will only take 16 months, but it's hard to combine with working full-time. I don't know if you're interested in private schools at all, but Ethel Bauer (IIA) has free on-site daycare for their nursing school students. However, I have heard many different opinions on the program.

    The accelerated pace is what really interests me.. if I did it at a CC, I'd be working full time as a programmer and then taking classes in the morning or night. I worry that my tight schedule may preclude me from getting the personal experience I would need for the hands-on stuff.

    I'll check out Ethel - although the daycare is more for when I'm at work then when I'm at school

    Thanks for the feedback though, I'm pretty sure I'll find a way to make it work

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