Gateway LPN Fast Track - page 16

Verah interesting........ Looks to me like it's a separate application process. Don't know what the wait list is like for it, but for those of you on the waitlist for the RN program, it might... Read More

  1. by   TinkRN8
    I was at RSAA and we had to do a skill for our final, then of course, the 5 skills for the state. I got female perineal care for the final, which is the ONE skill I didn't want. Then for the state, I was like one of the last to do my skills. EVERYONE had gotten either ROM, or transfer from bed to chair...the easier skills. Guess what I got, yep, perineal care.

    You will do great. It is so nerve wracking, but as long as you study the "bible" and know the steps you will do good. As mentioned by others, definately talking through the steps does help immensely.

    Good luck!
  2. by   inspiredRN10
    Quick question, what are the schedules like at RSAA? I heard the program various from day, night, and weekend. Are they all 3 weeks long? And what are the times? I can't find it on their website. I have heard a lot of good things about RSAA, I am thinking that is where I'll go.
  3. by   Marlene39
    Their website is http://www.rsaatraininginstitute.com/

    They have all different class times. There is a day class that takes 3 weeks and goes M-F 7-4:30, but there are evening and weekend classes as well. These will be longer since you have to have 120 hours of class plus clinicals for a CNA here in Arizona.

    I highly recommend this program!
  4. by   inspiredRN10
    Thank you! I think that is what I am going to do…Also, I called gateway and the lady I talked to said that there is a year wait list? Is that true? If I applied in November, could I get in by the Fall 2011? I thought it wasn't a "wait list" since it is a random selection? Am I wrong?
  5. by   miteacher
    I was wondering the same thing if you can get in if you apply in November or whenever they take the next set of applications. Do any other community colleges offer the LPN program? I really wanted to apply to Gateway. Last time i spoke to an advisor they told me it would only be 1 semester. I'm not sure I'm understanding how they take the people and place them. Is it completely randomized for the LPN or is it first come, first serve on a list? Thanks
  6. by   inspiredRN10
    The lady I spoke to said it is completely randomized. So if we apply together in November, you could get in Spring 11 and I could get in the Fall 11. It sounds like most people (recently) have waited a semester. So I think if we applied in November, we'd more than likely (hopefully) get in, in the Fall 11. As far as I know Gateway is the only community college that offers the LPN program. Also, do you need to have ALL your immunizations finished in order to have your application accepted? I don't have all 3 of the Hep B shots, and I know you have to wait a period of time in between…I am sort of worried about that. I heard you only needed your first when you initially apply but need to have them all done within the time frame, and then show them afterwards…Any insight to that?
  7. by   TinkRN8
    Hi, I just graduated from the program in May. It isn't really a wait list or random. It is kind of a combo of both really. I am thinking there probably will be a wait now because so many have discovered the program as a way of backdooring into the RN program and they have so many more applicants. Yes it is random, but I do know that they do give preference to those who have been waiting. For example, if you applied for fall, but didn't get in, you will most likely have a spot for Spring. You are put ahead of new applicants just applying for Spring. Does that make sense? Also, I do know that they are trying to accomodate as many as they can. For instance, I applied for Fall 2009 and got in because they created a 3rd (afternoon) class. And, I know that they are currently running summer morning and evening classes right now, which they have not done before. Also, people do drop at the last minute. Several people in my class got a call the night before class started.

    Yes you have to have all of your vaccinations up to date. In the case of the Hep B, as long as you have the 1st one done, you are OK. Honestly, they never asked me for record of the other 2. And remember that the TB is a 2 STEP, not just the single injection and reading.

    When you do turn in your application, make sure you have ALL of your paperwork with you, or you will be turned away. They will not accept incomplete applications.

    Good luck!
  8. by   inspiredRN10
    Thank you so much for your response! Yes, I applied last week to the forever long wait list of the nursing program. As of now they have 2,601 applicants who are not placed. I was quoted to get in (the earliest) Fall of 2012!! I felt really discouraged, but this sounds like a much better plan. So I am really excited to get started! Do you have an idea of when the applications will be due in the fall? I heard October. I just want to make sure I get everything organized.

    And thank goodness about the Hep B I was worried! I got the first injection in 2002, but never received the other 2. So I hope that will work for now, or at least get schedule for get the other two. But you think if I just show the 1st they will accept it? I think once I have everything put together I will go in and have them look it over to make sure I have everything, before I officially turn it in.
  9. by   Marlene39
    i think you should get your heb b started now just in case. you could have them almost done by the application date (which i believe was either late october or early november last year). i'm not sure the one shot you received in 2002 will still be acceptable. i had the first two shots done when i turned in my application and they were fine with that.

    another thing i would suggest is to finish your co-reqs while waiting to get into the program. this way you will be ready to go straight into block 3 when you finish the lpn program. plus, i do think having microbiology and a&p 2 will be helpful when you start learning pathophysiology. there is an absolutely awesome micro teacher at gateway and if you want his name email me and i will give it to you. he made it very easy to understand and the labs were really fun.
  10. by   TinkRN8
    Quote from marlene39
    i think you should get your heb b started now just in case. you could have them almost done by the application date (which i believe was either late october or early november last year). i'm not sure the one shot you received in 2002 will still be acceptable. i had the first two shots done when i turned in my application and they were fine with that.

    another thing i would suggest is to finish your co-reqs while waiting to get into the program. this way you will be ready to go straight into block 3 when you finish the lpn program. plus, i do think having microbiology and a&p 2 will be helpful when you start learning pathophysiology. there is an absolutely awesome micro teacher at gateway and if you want his name email me and i will give it to you. he made it very easy to understand and the labs were really fun.
    i agree with marlene39, i would start your hep b now, as 2002 was 7 yrs ago. not sure they will accept that. they will want something more recent.

    definately take a&p before you start the lpn program. trust me, without it you will be way behind the game. this program is no joke and they expect you to know your stuff. yes, i know there are no pre-req's, but trust me you are still expected to know a&p (especially), microbio, and chem (fluid/electrolytes, acid-base balance, hypo-,hyper-, isotonic solutions, etc). those in my class who had not taken a&p really had a hard time in class. in fact, we lost 10 out of 30 students 1st block. you have to know a&p or you will really struggle. i really can't emphasize that enough. the more pre-req's you have out of the way the better, but a&p = #1. you start day 1 hard and fast. when i say it is no joke...yeah, no joke. i am a good student and did very well in the program, but i can tell you after the first class i got in my car and cried all the way home. it was pretty brutal. there is no easing you into the material at all. you jump right in.

    also, pick up the saunder's nclex-pn review and start reading and answering questions now. this will help you so much and put you ahead of the game as well.

    anyway, these are things i would have liked to know before i started. it is a difficult program, but you will love every minute of it. i did. it really is a good program, and the teachers are awesome!!!!

    oh, and did i mention? take a&p :d.
  11. by   inspiredRN10
    Well good! It seems like I am on the right track then. I am taking bio 202 and bio 205 right now. They end in September. I will definitely go ahead and get that book to start reviewing questions. I am really excited! I wish I could start now!

    So, you both think that if I apply in October/November whenever the fall date is, I should get into Fall 2011 without any trouble? That would be a one semester wait. It seems like most people have only waited one semester. I am just trying to get organized. When I called, I spoke to someone who somewhat put a damper on my excitement by saying there is a year wait. What do you guys think? I am also starting RSAA program in July. It is finally coming together!
  12. by   Marlene39
    Quote from inspiredRN10
    So, you both think that if I apply in October/November whenever the fall date is, I should get into Fall 2011 without any trouble? That would be a one semester wait. It seems like most people have only waited one semester. I am just trying to get organized. When I called, I spoke to someone who somewhat put a damper on my excitement by saying there is a year wait. What do you guys think? I am also starting RSAA program in July. It is finally coming together!
    If there is something I've noticed in my pursuit of a nursing license is that nothing is set in stone (especially wait times). I waited one semester, but who knows what the wait will be the next time around. With the closure of Rio Salado and Banner Fellowship program, there will be less spots and more waiting. Even the private universities have a waiting list now. Plus, Arizona is producing more new grads than they can possibly place so you have to wonder if at some point they will restrict the number of cohorts offered. Although I can imagine colleges are happy to have the money pouring in even if their students can't get jobs when they graduate. Talk to any seasoned nurse and they will tell you there is an ebb and flow to nursing jobs, but in the long run it's worth the effort.
  13. by   TinkRN8
    Quote from inspiredRN10
    Well good! It seems like I am on the right track then. I am taking bio 202 and bio 205 right now. They end in September. I will definitely go ahead and get that book to start reviewing questions. I am really excited! I wish I could start now!

    So, you both think that if I apply in October/November whenever the fall date is, I should get into Fall 2011 without any trouble? That would be a one semester wait. It seems like most people have only waited one semester. I am just trying to get organized. When I called, I spoke to someone who somewhat put a damper on my excitement by saying there is a year wait. What do you guys think? I am also starting RSAA program in July. It is finally coming together!
    Hard to say on wait time. I know that Gateway is receiving an unprecedented amount of applications for the LPN program as more and more people are trying to bypass the RN wait list. Right now there are only 4 instructors for the lab/lectures for the LPN program. They can only be spread so far. My semester was an experiment with running 3 classes at one time. As far as I know they are not doing that again in the near future. And, as more and more people apply, that increases the wait time. Just depends on how many students they can accomodate. I have 2 friends that applied for Spring 2010, and are starting now in the Fall, so they waited one semester. Again, it really all depends. A lot can happen between now and then. Heck, you may get in for Spring, 2011, you may have to wait for Fall 2011, or it may be Spring 2012. Just have all of your ducks in a row to start at any time. I KNOW it is frustrating and overwhelming. I have been there.

    Also, just a side note in regards to advanced placement into block 3 of the RN program, an increase in LPN students means an increase in demand for block 3 spots. It is VERY competative even right now. Normally, there has been no wait to get into block 3 and Gateway has even created block 3 cohorts just for their LPN graduates. However, we were told that spots for Fall were EXTREMELY limited due to the number of applicants applying for placement. Also, they were not able to create a FAll cohort due to the number of Banner cohorts currently running. As a result, placement was going to be based on HESI scores and most people were going to have to wait until Spring 2011. Thankfully, I got a high score on my HESI, but Gateway has yet to place anyone for Fall. I took it upon myself to email other colleges for openings. The general consesus I was getting was that there were more requests for placement than there were spots. I did end up getting offers from both PC and CGCC and decided on CGCC. However, that was after endless emails and keeping my name out there. Once you graduate the LPN program, you are not automatically guaranteed an immediate spot for block 3. You may have to wait a semester or 2 there as well. This is something to keep in mind.

    Don't get discouraged though! If this is something that you really want, then do whatever you can to make your dream happen. TBe proactive. That is what I did. I was surfing the web everyday, contacting schools, etc. There wasn't one option I didn't look at. I want to be a nurse more than anything, as it is my passion. I truly love it. I better, as I will actually get paid less as a new grad RN than what I currently make working in the insurance industry...LOL! It took me 2 years to complete all my pre-req's, I waited a year and half on the RN waitlist before applying to the LPN program, got in to the LPN and now starting block 3 of the RN program. It has been a roller coaster, but worth it. Where there is a will there is a way. Just don't give up, because if you want it, it WILL happen.

    Good luck!

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