CEP Point System

  1. Hi,

    I met with a nursing advisor yesterday, and was explained the point system. I forgot to ask him though what the average points are, for the people getting into the CEP program. I am specifically looking for the Glendale weekend program, but would like to hear from anybody if they happen to know. I am trying to think of how many points I need to be competitive.

    Thanks.
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  2. 8 Comments

  3. by   AZ Sunshine
    I don't know that anyone can really give a specific answer to that question. The average points vary based upon the candidate pool. It depends if the group of students you are applying with have higher or lower scores than you this round, but this changes each application cycle. I honestly believe there is some invisible calculation that takes place based on the university you select as well. Again, that is just my personal belief. Aim for the highest possible scores and retake your HESI if you need to. Good Luck!!
  4. by   Union-Jack
    Just like AZSUnshine said, you will be competing against the other candidates in the nursing pool for that round of submissions. So, for example, your application could be top of the pile in one group, middle in another, and n yet another you might not get a place. In other words - always assume you'll be up against really strong competition and make your application the best it can be.

    I can't give you specifics on the point system, because nobody knows the exact way it's done, but the best I've managed to find out is as follows. DO NOT QUOTE ME on any of this, this is just what I have managed to gather from asking around! that they will give you points based on your HESI score, your GPA. You can earn an additional point if you have a previous AA degree, and an additional 2 points for a Bachelors degree. You can also earn an additional point if all your University co-reqs classes are completed (some Unis allow you to apply even if you have a class in progress. If you have that class or classes completed, you can get an bonus point).

    Regarding your HESI score. They will take the overall score, I believe, and allocate you points based off where that score falls. For example, if your score falls between 95.1-100% you get 5 points, if it falls between 90.1-95% you get 4 points, and so on. So, as you can see, even those extra 1/10th% make a difference. You really want to aim for a HESI in the 90%, and preferably high 90s.

    For the GPA, from my understanding they take your GPA and multiply by 2.5. So - the maximum score you can get is 10 if your GPA is a 4.0. Again, based on this, every single extra bit of GPA you can get helps you.

    They add all these scores up and rank applicants in order based on college choice. Every college uses the same formula, I think, so Glendale evening is the same as Mesa day, for example. It is more a case of who else you're up against in your application period. Glendale is one of the more popular choices, so that possibly could impact things for you. When you apply you get a choice of 3 colleges to apply for. Even if you don't particularly want another school, put them down anyway because you might get a place somewhere else, and rather that than no place at all.

    My understanding about the University is that as long as you meet their minimum requirements as per the CEP application process, you are guaranteed a place at the University of your choice IF YOU GET A PLACE AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE. In other words, it is the community college that makes the final decision. If you don't get a place at the CC, then you don't get a place at the Uni. If you do get offered a place at the CC, then you'll get your Uni place.

    This last round there were over 1000 applicants, so it is very competitive. My best advice is that you get stellar HESI scores (high 90-100) and great GPA. If you already have a degree, all the better. If you have all the Uni pre-and co- reqs done, even better.
    HTH
  5. by   jen91
    When I went in and spoke with the advisor last Wednesday, he actually went over the point system with me and gave it to me on paper. I have all my pre-req done for the university, and have a prior degree (which you only get 2 points for that, no matter what the degree from AA-Doctor). He did suggest I retake the HESI, to get more points from that. I just forgot to ask him how many points the students have that are getting in. If the students getting in all have 25 out of the 25 points available, then only retaking the HESI isn't going to cut it for me. He told me I currently am sitting at 16 points.
  6. by   AZ Sunshine
    The point rubric has now been published on the CEP website. It is a bit different than Union indicated - I'm sure the advisor gave you the updated info. I was selected for the last round of placement. I didn't expect it as I did not think my points were high enough. Using this new rubric I would have 21 points, but I don't know if the same rubric was used last placement. I had no previous degrees, but did quite well on my HESI. The new rubric says it is for November 17 placement and forward. My advisor did not disclose the illusive point system to my when I applied last May. Maybe others had a different experience. Unfortunately it has notoriously been a big unknown in the past.
    Last edit by AZ Sunshine on Sep 23
  7. by   Union-Jack
    Quote from AZ Sunshine
    The point rubric has now been published on the CEP website. It is a bit different than Union indicated - I'm sure the advisor gave you the updated info. I was selected for the last round of placement. I didn't expect it as I did not think my points were high enough. Using this new rubric I would have 21 points, but I don't know if the same rubric was used last placement. I had no previous degrees, but did quite well on my HESI. The new rubric says it is for November 17 placement and forward. My advisor did not disclose the illusive point system to my when I applied last May. Maybe others had a different experience. Unfortunately it has notoriously been a big unknown in the past.
    Ooooh - that's great to know! I'm sure it's quite a bit different from what I said - mine was cobbled together the best I could from various sources! I've never understood why they kept it so secret - I'm glad it's been published!!

    Thanks for the info AZ!
  8. by   Union-Jack
  9. by   jen91
    I emailed the school with my question, so we'll see what they respond with. I'm thinking I have to retake my HESI to get more points with this new system.
  10. by   Union-Jack
    When I went to the orientation before applying, they really encouraged us to aim for a high 90% for HESI in both math and English. You can re-sit 3 times a year, with a 60 day wait time between each attempt.
    Good luck!

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